A non-for-profit JE question

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    kukuna2008
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    Assume I provide service of fixing roof for a non-for-profit organization for no cost. I know it will increase the expense and contribution, but what is the JE? is Contribution a Revenue account?

    FAR - 83, 04/2015
    AUD - 73, 86, 08/2015
    REG - 75
    BEC - 71, rematch in 04/2016

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  • #649572
    nika_cpa
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    If you are a professional then it is not just a contribution. NFP will need book FMV of your services by debiting Asset account (contributed services) and crediting Revenue! I hope this helps!

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    #649573
    Anonymous
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    Contribution is *not* their revenue account. It may be a revenue account, but not the only revenue account.

    As for the JE, a gift in kind (aka non-cash gift) would be either a debit to Contributions/Gifts and a credit to expense or a debit to Contributions/Gifts and a credit to an asset, depending on how the roof fix is handled (for other contributions, could potentially be a credit to a different account). It's early in the morning and my brain may not be functioning right, but I'm pretty sure fixing something is an expense unless it prolongs the life of the asset. So if this fix turned a 30-year roof into a 40-year roof, then it created an asset of 10 more years of roof, but if it just made a 30-year roof quit leaking after 15 years, then it's an expense.

    However, you can't donate your time and have it count as a donation on the donor's side of things. Like, I can't go donate 10 hours at the food pantry and say that it's worth $10/hr so I have a $100 donation to report on my taxes. I want to say that the NFP organization can't formally recognize labor as a donation, either, but I could be wrong (like I said, early morning). If someone wanted to be sure it was recognized as a contribution and expense/asset, they'd need to donate money to the organization (say, $1000) and do the work and get paid the same or similar sum. However, if you're paid for the work and it's $1000, you'll have to report self-employment tax on it, so you won't have the whole $1000 to donate back.

    #649574
    mla1169
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    Well you wouldn't increase a revenue and an expense, whose j/e are you referrring to, yours or the recipients?

    As to time counting on the donors side of things, if memory serves the time does count IF the person providing the service normally provides that service for a fee. Example, jane down the street is a cashier who likes to do taxes for people. Her time is not a donation if she does the taxes of a NFP. Her sister Mary is a licensed CPA who works in tax, her services would count to the donor.

    And I'm fairly certain contributed services would be an income statement account, not an asset.

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    AUD -49, 71, 84
    REG -56,75!
    BEC -75

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    #649575
    nika_cpa
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    It is a revenue for NFP on Income statement just not operating income – other income. For professional services NFP must recognize FMV value as income which will increase unrestricted asset account. I am fresh from FAR exam so I remember this part well.

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    #649576
    mla1169
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    If the roof was being capitalized (as Lilla said) you are correct, there would be an asset debited.

    If it were a repair that was being expensed, there would be no asset debited. So the answer is (as always) it depends.

    See this link for help, says asset and/or expense are debited, https://people.emich.edu/skattelus/fin008.htm

    FAR- 77
    AUD -49, 71, 84
    REG -56,75!
    BEC -75

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    #649577
    kukuna2008
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    Thanks guys! now I get it, helps a lot!

    FAR - 83, 04/2015
    AUD - 73, 86, 08/2015
    REG - 75
    BEC - 71, rematch in 04/2016

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