Advice on how to get required work experience

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    Joyous
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    What would be the best way to join the work force and get the required work experience for certification. I am have been unemployed for many years. I am open to internships but the internships seem to be tailored for fresh graduates and unfortunately I’m not a spring chicken…..

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    mastump317
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    Not a spring chicken? Welcome to the club!
    Go to local churches or non-profits directly and see if they need someone to do their books. If you can't find any paid positions, volunteer, the work hours you accumulate volunteering are just as qualified as paid work hours. If you volunteer, however, explain what you are doing and get some kind of record as to how many hours you actually volunteered for them.

    If you don't mind taxes, then working for one of the seasonal tax prep companies like HR Block is a good way to get time in. They don't limit hiring to spring chickens! If you do go to work for one of these out fits you will sing a not-to-compete agreement that will prevent you from working for other companies, though not other HR Block offices. If you do sing a not-to-compete, be certain you will get maximum hours out of that company or office. When I worked for Block years ago, I worked only a few weeks starting out in a corporate owned office, never enough to make a difference. The thought never hit me to check out other local Block offices to see if they needed help, but I never asked about it either.

    You can join VITA, the Volunteer Income Tax Assistance program that Uncle Sam has for veterans and other folks.

    When you hear a success story from someone that is not a “fresh graduate”, it usually will center around the individual taking the bull by the horns. One can sit at their computer and send out resumes by the hundreds, and never get job offers. The avalanche of job offers that the Internet has created for employers has turned into a bit of a nightmare for them. Most of the time it is used as a “dike to hold the flood of resumes back”, and the company will search for candidates through via referrals from their own employees. If you know someone working for a company you would like to work for, ask if they are hiring.
    In order to beat the rush of other people sending resumes, send resumes to the companies you would like to work for, whether or not they are hiring. You need to stick out from the crowd, and if you send a resume to company that is not advertising for new employees, there will be no crowd to stand out from! Sometimes the company will be looking for new hires but not advertise.

    OK, one more tip and I'm done. Go to a local library that has access to Research USA. This is the non-profit library branch of InfoUSA, one of the two list compilers int he USA. You can use this service for free from libraries. You use it for looking for the types of companies you want to work for, and you can make a custom list of possible companies based on your preferences. What I have used it for in the past is to lookk for CPA and tax firms when looking for work.

    Joyous, I don't know how old you are, I'm 59 and still have nowhere near the full year required for work certification. I'm going to be calling and knocking on doors later this year, however, in search for jobs and I know there has to be a couple of business owners that still has enough respect for older people to give me a chance!

    Good luck to you. Any questions just post.

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    300
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    I think a long stretch of unemployment is going to be your biggest challenge. If you were working, even in a completely different profession, it would be a lot easier to get a position. But we can't change the past, only the present.

    The first step is to get into the workforce. The suggestion of volunteer work is good. You should consider temp or part time jobs. Even if they don't count for CPA experience, a temp job can open doors to opportunities that do count for CPA. It may take time if you're unemployed a long time.

    When you apply and interview, put yourself in the hiring manager's shoes. Why should they hire you instead of the dozens of other applicants? What do you bring to the table that's your greatest strength? If they hire you, how will you make your boss look good, or solve a problem they have? When you know the answer and can articulate it, you're ahead of 75% of the pack.

    #823702
    Tncincy
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    I've run my own business for 20 years of tax and consulting, do you think I would have to get other experience or audit experience?

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    #823768
    mastump317
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    tncincy,
    That depends on which state you live in, or which state you are going to get the CPA licensure in. Here, in Ohio, they have an option that will allow a person to certify for the CPA completely through self-employment. They need three letters of reference from 3 of your biggest clients, and it also requires a licenses CPA to sign off saying that he has looked at your records and is satisfied you have fulfilled the time requirement. Some states are lenient, others more stringent. In order to find out check it out on your state's Board of accountancy website.
    In Ohio, they look for one years employment. If the employment is seasonal, or not continuous, they will count 500 hours as the equivalent of 3 months work.
    If you have that much experience you're already well on your way. I have yet to have my first full time job in public accounting.

    Best of luck to you!

    Marc

    #828820
    Joyous
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    Mastump317,

    Thank you for taking the time to respond in detail. I highly appreciate it. I definitely would love to go knocking on doors but I wonder if I will be allowed to go past the reception area without an appointment. It seems that people become “unavailable” when the phone call concerns jobs and they simply ignore emails. I don't mind taxes in fact I did work for a tax company 10 years ago but I wasn't sure if I working there now would count since from my understanding I thought a CPA has supervise your work. Well, I will keep you posted if anything comes up.

    300,
    Yes I am looking for anything and everything. I know after such a long gap of unemployment it's not easy but once I get my foot in then I'd have to maximize on my capabilities and work toward the experience that counts.

    tncincy,
    Congratulations on your tax company. Did you check with your state if you still need a CPA to certify your work? Hope all is going well despite the graying. I need some work done on mine…

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    When did you get your degree in accounting?

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