AMT-medical expense 10% question

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  • #186489

    I have one question about AMT and I got a little bit confused by the new medical expense 10%

    For this question

    Medical expenses (before percentage limitations) $12,000

    State income taxes 4,000

    Real estate taxes 3,500

    Qualified housing and residence mortgage interest 10,000

    Home equity mortgage interest (used to consolidate personal debts) 4,500

    Charitable contributions (cash) 5,000

    What are Robert’s itemized deductions that are allowable for alternative minimum tax purposes?

    Is it only 10000+5000 then? since there will be no adjustment between federal and amt purpose for medical expense?

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  • #578026
    Anonymous
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    If I recall correctly, the AGI is $100,000 resulting in a 10% cap of medical expenses at $10,000.

    $2,000 (excess medical) + $5,000 + $10,000 = $17,000

    #578027
    lude4life13
    Member

    It doesn't matter what the AGI is in THIS question, which is why it says “before percentage limitation.” Usually it has the 10% rule, but not in this case.

    #578028

    The AGI is 100,000. My question is do we still need to add the percentage limitation, which in this case is 12,000-10%*100,000 since the law changed. There is no adjustment between regular tax and amt regard medical expense?

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    #578029
    Anonymous
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    What's the answer? I'm fairly certain it's $17,000….

    #578030

    I know the answer was 17,000, but was for 2013 before the law changed…. I just want to see the effect after the law changed tested after July 1st, since now there will not be any adjustment between regular tax and amt for medical expense……

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    #578031
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I now see what you're getting at. My fault.

    #578032
    accountabergs
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    Isn't the new law only that for taxpayers 65 and older, there will be a 7.5% threshold on sch A and and 10% threshold for AMT, resulting in a 2.5% difference?

    And its still 10% for both sch A and AMT for regular taxpayers?

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    #578033

    I thought the new law eliminated the 2.5% difference……

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    #578034
    accountabergs
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    I thought it used to be 7.5% for both sch A and AMT….. maybe I'm wrong. I am confused.

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    #578035

    Yes, it used to be 7.5%,and then I think it changed to 10% for people older than 65, then after July 1st, the material to be tested, it is 10% regardless of your age.

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    #578036
    highlightnumb
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    @jiaxuanclaire

    You brought up a very good point here which had me thinking to go back and review this topic. So it basically looks the regular tax deduction and the amt deduction will be the same. The 10% regular tax threshold deduction has now caught up to amt tax threshold deduction. The rules for age 65 or older 7.5% of AGI will still incur a difference vs the 10% threshold for AMT purposes. But yes like you said in your last post the AMT threshold is 10% regardless of your age. Good Point!

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    #578037
    highlightnumb
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    so basically if an individual taxpayer under 65yo can deduct lets say 2,500 to arrive at taxable income then that 2,500 is allowed (not added back) for AMT purposes because they both have the same 10% threshold. Now if you're 65 or older and you deducted 2,500 for regular tax well that 2,500 will have to added back for AMT purposes because 7.5% was used for regular tax and AMT is 10%. Hope that makes sense.

    Mario Marcel, CPA

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    #578038

    @highlightnumb, thanks! I just looked up and the 7.5% threshold did not change for regular tax purpose for people older than 65 until year 2016. But shouldn't there be a 2.5% adjustment for people older than 65?

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