Asking PWC to change my office?

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    coolerdude44
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    So long story short, I applied and got an offer for the office in a particular city because my girlfriend got a job there first. Now, we just broke up the other day, and I would now prefer working in the New York office due to familial ties and it being where I grew up.

    Would it be a good idea to ask if it’s possible to change the office I’ll be working at? Or would it be better to start off at the original office, and eventually transfer?

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  • #686191

    dude just ask

    #686192

    I'm in a similar process of trying to change offices. In my situation, I have very personal reasons why I need to move closer to home, and I was confident that my partner/HR person would sign off on getting me switched out. Now, depending on your reasoning, I've heard mixed advice. Take what I say below with somewhat of a grain of salt, since I'm still in this process and my situation probably differs from yours.

    The dilemma is that it's a bit of a catch-22 in that you're kind of putting yourself out there and will probably shoot yourself in the foot either way if it fails. If you reach out the the other office's HR first, your home office will not be a big fan of you and it could be seen as slightly underhanded. These are basically separate businesses operating under the same umbrella and partners don't like to see people they've trained leave. That said, if you tell your office's HR that you want to leave, you might get slightly screwed in that now the office knows you aren't going to be here and has no incentive to give you the opportunities you want till the time you transfer.

    When I was deciding what to do, I decided to just go to HR at my office because, if HR/the partner wouldn't support me for my very real reason for leaving, then frankly, this firm doesn't care enough about me and I won't stay long anyway. Second, if I talk to them first, I figured the partner would be much more sympathetic toward signing off on the transfer than if I went to the other office and undercut them. However, I can also see how it's beneficial to have another office already clamoring for you, so if you think you can pull that off, go for it.

    Just for general info, the basic process (if you go to your HR first) is that HR will talk to your office's head partner and explain the situation. If the partner signs off on it, then your HR person will connect you to the other office and begin discussions assessing the need of the other office, your fit, etc. After that, I'm not sure as I'm still finding out what's going on, but hopefully this helps a bit.

    My best advice is really think about how legitimate your reason is for leaving and if your current situation is bad enough to make you want to leave the firm if necessary. My guess is that internal transfers are WAY easier than getting hired externally, but it is risky, IMO, because the firm will know you aren't sticking around and therefore be less likely to accommodate you while you're here.

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    #686193
    Anonymous
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    It doesn't hurt to ask, but I wouldn't give the reason of “my girlfriend and I just broke up.” Don't give a reason unless they ask, in which case say you want to be closer to family or something.

    #686194
    coolerdude44
    Participant

    let me also make it known that I am still a senior in college, i haven't actually started yet at any office. does that make it better or worse to ask?

    #686195

    dude just ask

    #686196

    im with quittingcpa.. I know plenty of people who have switched. They would rather lose you to a different office than a new firm.

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    #686197
    GOIN4UCPA
    Member

    Coolerdude44 I am in the same situation as you and have been trying to get relocated before I start this fall because my fiancé got a job in another city and I am trying to transfer out of NY office. Can you please let me know how your transfer went and if you could give me some advice? Thank you!

    #686198
    LoriInCO
    Member

    It doesn't hurt to ask. I interned at PwC with a woman who accepted an offer in Denver. Before we started as first years, she decided she wanted to move to California, so she asked if she could start out there instead. Her boyfriend was already working out there, and she wanted to live someplace other than Denver for a change. I don't know exactly what she told PwC, but they worked with her and were great about it.

    While we were at training at the start of the internship, one of the interns from the Salt Lake office had already been talking with the firm about possibly moving to a different office. His wife was applying to grad schools across the country, and he wanted to make sure he was living in the same city where she ended up getting accepted. It sounded like the firm was open to making it work for him.

    #686199
    Last Chance CPA
    Participant

    They would rather keep a good employee in there firm, even if you move to another office. Dude, just ask – lol. But yeah, just ask. Make it official. They will work with you…

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    Now I need some experience!!! And some networking...

    #686200
    GOIN4UCPA
    Member

    I reached out to the HR in home office and they said the HR in the other office really couldn't take me because they just finished recruiting. Also, the HR in home office advised me to wait for a while to bring up the transfer request to the new HR I will be working with once start. So it sounds like I will have to wait at least half a year to get transferred. I guess I will have to either turn down the offer or take my chance and start in NY office to see what happens.

    #686201
    ruggercpa2b
    Participant

    Its so much easier to transfer once you actually start depending on the practice you are with. If I were you I would keep the offer but keep applying other places. There are people that accept offers and end up not starting when the time comes.

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    I am so ready for this nightmare to be over. Been at this way too long.

    #686202
    GOIN4UCPA
    Member

    I am in Assurance practice and I hope it is easier to transfer after start but I have heard otherwise. I don't really know how transfer works within PwC or big 4. Most of my friends at big 4 were surprised they couldn't transfer me before Fall because my reason is legit and the other office is a big office. Yeah I recently connected with other big4 and GT. To be honest, I just always wanted to start my career at PwC and it will be really unfortunate I have to turn down the offer.

    #686203
    ruggercpa2b
    Participant

    You have to remember everything is based on numbers. The NY office may be big but if this year's budget says they can only bring on 100 new hires and at this moment if they have 100 people confirmed to start then that is what they can have. There is just so much more that goes into hiring vs just the size of the office. When I worked at Deloitte they would always say we were short handed but because the powers that be felt that the headcount should be at 200 even though we needed 300 it had to stay at 200.

    I honestly would start and then switch. At Deloitte I wanted to switch offices and HR had to make a business case as to why they were bringing me on and had to get approved. It took almost 4 months for the whole process to get approved.

    Ask HR if there are any people that decide not to start when the time comes if you would be able to transfer. I mean at the end of the day you have to do whats best for you. If not starting because you decided to change your mind and they cant accommodate you then so be it. But do not make a hasty decision.

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    I am so ready for this nightmare to be over. Been at this way too long.

    #686205
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I work for PwC and just transferred. It wasn't an issue. I also interned with many people at PwC who decided to switch groups or start in a different PwC office. I reached out to my coach/HR manager who then coordinated with the HR manager in the office I wanted to transfer to.

    #686206
    GOIN4UCPA
    Member

    @ruggercpa2b @Accrual1102 Thank you so much for the advice! I really appreciate it.

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