Becker Vs Ninja BEC , Economic Value Added Question

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  • #199469
    Stgeorge
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    I am using Becker and also have the Ninja Book. I found that Becker states the EVA is the excess of income after taxes, but when looking at a Ninja example it seems that EVA per Ninja does not include after tax consideration.

    Becker states EVA = NOPAT – Required return

    Required Return = Investment * Cost of Capital(WACC)

    This is an example from Ninja

    Zig Corp. Provides the Following Information

    Pretax operating profit = $300,000,000

    Tax Rate: 40%

    Capital Used to Generate Profit (50% debt, 50% equity) = $1,200,000,000

    Cost of Equity: 15%

    Cost of Debt : 5%

    What is the EVA Amount?

    a) $0

    b) $60,000,000

    c) $120,000,000

    d) $180,000,000

    Ninja says the answer is D and they do not take into consideration of the tax rate. I am very confused since becker and ninja are showing conflicting information. Could someone please help me out since becker emphasizes in their book that EVA should be calculated after tax.

    FAR 81
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    REG 87 (CPA excel Wiley Self Study Book, Ninja 10 point combo)
    BEC 86! I Must Pass or I lose my FAR Credit, Pray for me(Becker, Wiley, WTB, Ninja MCQ, Ninja Notes)

    DONE!!!!!!

    Using : Wiley CPA Exam Review Textbook, Wiley TB, Ninja Notes, Ninja MCQ

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  • #754491
    Biff-1955-Tannen
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    What question is this? I'm curious about this as well…
    Wiley has the same equation as Becker

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    #754492
    Stgeorge
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    There is conflicting interpretation in the Ninja book as well. The question above is from Chapter 6: Strategic Planning (Page 15)

    I also see EVA being explained on Chapter 3: Financial Management on page 116 which is similar to becker.

    Could someone explain the two different calculations?

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    #754493
    tuanxn
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    Could you list the entire problem from Ninja?

    #754494
    monikernc
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    Please include the question number in ninja if you have it. Thanks.

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    #754495
    monikernc
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    We are given two different formulas – one in fin mgmt as EVA = NOPAT – (cost of capital x total assets)
    And the second in strategic plan as EVA = (return on capital-cost of capital) x (capital investment in a project)

    In the question cited above we are not given total assets so we use the second formula.

    And guess what? There is an entire website dedicated to EVA, eva.com, that explains the two formulas are functional equivalents. I just haven't wrapped my head around that yet. But here it is: https://www.eva.com

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    #754496
    monikernc
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    I just wrapped my head around those two equations being equivalent and it exploded.

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    #754497
    Stgeorge
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    wow thank you @monikernc that helped, I need to pass BEC first time to not lose my FAR credit. I might just go over Becker BEC and also read the ninja book for good measure, already going through all becker MCQ, going to go through WTB, and hit the review on Ninja MCQ. Aiming for a 100% lol….

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    DONE!!!!!!

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    #754498
    nyclife
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    Not sure why everyone is confused. The NINJA answer should have been B. Becker's formula is correct. NOPAT – Cost of Capital. Cost of Capital factors in weighted debt and equity at their respective rates.

    Moniker – The total assets are given in the question. It is called capital used. I think you are overthinking this. Your second formula is similar to the first one you cited. Here is an example for formula 2 – Return on capital=12%. Cost of capital=8%. Capital investment (or you can call it total capital if this reflected the entire company)=$1M. Calculation is (12-8%)*(1M)=40K. So 40K is your EVA.

    #754499
    monikernc
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    i am sticking with what i learned last night.

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    #754500
    Biff-1955-Tannen
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    lol alright, just to clarify to everybody that read this post and ended up confused by how to go about EVA problems. I literally just did this question #980, and the answer is B… So how we all thought that we were supposed to go about this problem, is exactly how we go about the problem. After tax income is used.

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    #754501
    tuanxn
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    Hey Biff, now that you mentioned that, I remembered that the answer was B too. I don't remember any typos from Ninja for BEC.

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