Blown away by Audit score!!!!!!

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    MazyJane
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    I just recently got my exam score back from BEC, which I took on August 6th, 2014 and received the score on August the 26th. The earliest I was to receive the score was August 22nd. I lived with more psychological angst from the August 22nd-26th than most of my adult life. Like all the majority of the posters here, I received a failing score, not just a failing score – which I could understand, but a seventy-muth-fning-four, 74! I am still shocked and until several hours ago, I was debating on whether I should institute a regrading or an appeal. Well, after thoroughly reviewing both options, I decided they were both not financially practicable. Who has $200 to spend on regrading, besides, how do you even know if the AICPA regrades the exam, they probably do not, it probably is not even possible considering the AICPAs “magical” grading methodologies cannot be repeated. An appeal is the way to go – if you have the time and money to travel to Nashville, Tennessee and sit down with a AICPA representative. The cost is $500 up front and $100 per question/simulation chosen for an appeal. Oh, you also have to pay to fly, rent a car, stay somewhere, food, and other miscellaneous expenses. I calculated it would cost me around $5,000 to appeal the exam broken down as follows: initial $500 up front cost, approximately 30 multiple choice questions and 3 simulations at $100 per item – $3,300, traveling expenses $1,200.00! Not to mention, I would have to skip going on a ski vacation or cruise, just to meet the devil incarnate rep of the AICPA tasked with deceiving me even more. The real problem is that I cannot remember the specific question numbers and which tests contained those questions! I can only remember the gist of the questions. You have to tell them which testiest and question number you want to appeal, it cannot be a request for all failed questions, you have to choose which question you think you failed. I studied my ass off and deserved a passing score, but I received the highest failing score possible. My dad is a CPA and several years ago decided to make it my life to become one as well. I have earned a MAFM and a MBA in Finance, took the Becker CPA review and studied independently. I did not like the exam and I thought it skipped material that was covered heavily and more important to the CPA’s understanding of the business environment. Yet, the exam managed to have those non-review material questions riddled with ambiguity to the point of no answer definitely being correct or others being incorrect. In my opinion, that is why the CPA exam is difficult, ambiguity. The questions are written to force the answerer to make assumptions and subsequently, errors. You might be thinking what is my point. My point is something shady is going on at the AICPA!

    Why would the AICPA allow appeals but at prohibitively higher costs? The answer – no one studying for the CPA exam has tens of thousands of dollars to hire a lawyer and institute and appeal. You would be crazy to pay those cheats to cheat you again! Why are question so ambiguous and secretive? Is it not the exact same material with the exception of minor alterations for updates in accounting rules that has been around for decades. My dad’s accounting textbooks were not to different from my mine, except for color, pictures, diagrams and costs. Even if an appeal is instituted, how would you prove that the question was worded, stated, answered, and had the same potential answers as presented in the actual exam? You have no way to prove anything because you cannot bring anything in to the “high-security” test center but nervousness and hopefulness. I just loved being re-fingerprinted to leave the room, which was practically empty, as if someone was pretending to be me taking a break to use the bathroom for me! It took almost ten minutes, roundtrip, for the lady to get my fingerprint matched and for her to “accept” my signature – and that was without a line, god forbid other people are in line waiting to be screwed over by some Pro-metric employee pretending she cannot scan your fingerprint to keep your testing time marginalized for job security purposes.

    On top of all this the AICPA can do the following to you: if you pass the first test let with a good score, then you will get a harder test let worth more on a per question basis. If you do well again, the you get an even harder exam worth even more on a question by question basis. The best scores are automatically placed into the upper bell curve of the “rounding.” For those who perform poorly on the first test let, you are given an easier test-let, which is worth less on a per question basis. If you do bad again, it is an even easier exam, worth even less on per question basis. If the AICPA knows how well you did practically instantaneously to decide if you receive a more or less difficult test let, then why does it take 20+ days to received your final scores? It takes about 3 weeks because your scores and compared to all others taking the exam at that time and every question is graded psychometrically. Psychometrics is fancy way of “curving.” The highest score sets the top upper end of the curve and all other scores are scored downward. Just like an Organic Chemistry exam where the highest score of 52 out of 100 is an A+. If everyone does good and you do good, it is an average good. If you do good and everyone does bad, it is an above average good. If you do bad and everyone else does good, than it is a below average bad. It takes time to see who scored the highest from that testing period, what questions they were asked, what question they are going to decide to de-credit by saying they are only experimental questions to be used in future exams, which questions are only worth .5 instead of 2.0 because of difficulty – set by the percentage of correct and incorrect responses during that testing period, normalizing the pass-fail ratio, etc. Basically, there are so many legitimate ways for the AICPA to fail you, that you could pass with a super high score and end up with a failing grade because of after the fact “magical” scoring. All of which explains the approximate pass-fail ratio which only varies by very little from quarter to quarter on each exam, approximately 50-50. I found some of the other posts interesting that stated their beliefs in being failed for taking the test too late in the window, after a standard number of passing scores have already been achieved. If your a below average passing score, 75-84, then you might find your score curved to a 64-74. Bottom line – I believe that I passed and was denied a passing grade because of the “magical” scoring.

    If you do not think the AICPA denies passing grades even though you passed then you really should not be entering the field of accounting. Do you know that there are approximately 650,000 CPA’s in America for almost 330,000,000 Americans? Why are there so few CPA’s? The AICPA does not want 3 million CPA’s out there decreasing the scarcity of CPA’s, their exceptionally high wages and job security. Sure, not everyone needs a CPA, but 8% of Americans are millionaires, approximately 27,000,000 and countless businesses need hoards of CPAs merely to function day to day. The CPA credential is harder to attain than any other license and practically no one can deny that fact. I can remember meeting a lawyer at the first accounting firm I worked for years ago who was licensed to practice law in over ten states but would say outright that he could not pass the CPA exam to save his life. I never understood why, but now I know why.

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  • #601569
    MazyJane
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    I was totally blown away by my Audit score! 68!!! WTH! My exam credit expired in November. I scored 73 on this exam last year with very little studying and then received a 76 on my next attempt. I studied way more for this exam than I did when I scored the 73 & the 76. I have sat for over 25 exams and have never walked away from the testing center feeling good until this exam. I am shocked I did not pass. I would not have been surprised if I had scored in the 90's. How did this happen? I felt like I did nearly 100 percent on 6 of the simulation tabs and ok on 1. Felt really good about the multiple choice too. I feel so strongly about this that I feel like something was not graded right. If I had gotten my Audit credit back, I would only have FAR left next year. Can anyone relate to my experience on this particular exam?

    #601570
    homerun07
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    i was certain that i passed too. felt good about it but received a 72..

    🙁

    #601571
    jrc1988
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    I'm done trying to guess what I get when I walk out of the exam. It's a complete crap-shoot. When people ask me how it went I always just say fine, and we'll see. Lord knows how they grade this thing.

    I'm sorry you didn't pass, but it seems like you know the material if you've passed before. I'd suggest doing the Wiley Test Bank and just knocking out tons of MCQ's until your retest. Good luck

    #601572
    MazyJane
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    @jrc1988

    Thanks! I definitely agree with the crap-shoot part. I hate when people ask me how the exam went. I always say that I don't feel good about it with the exception of this time. Won't make that mistake again. I just knew I passed.

    #601573
    sdgh1826
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    I guess no one could really understand until they take the exam and receive their score. I keep having random questions from people asking “so you think you passed?” or “what do you mean it could go either way?”. To avoid these questions, I just try to discuss the exam with people who actually took it. They already know what you're gonna say.

    Becker 2012, NINJA notes

    #601574
    Maverick
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    I felt exactly like you did, MazyJane. I noticed a lot of very high AUD scores were released December 7. Based on that alone I suspected my score would fall short of passing. I think the AICPA controls the number of passing rates; that is why I believe it is curved based on the percentage pass rate. Test takers with actual scores of 75 – 79 will fail because too many passing grades, so the scores will be curved downwards to ensure a consistent under 50% pass rate. That is why the report says your performance is compared to other test takers. It's not how well you did on the test but how well you did compared to other candidates who took the test; so if 100% pass, the AICPA will fail 52% to ensure that only 48% (highest scores in the population) will pass……..who knows…maybe I'm wrong…just my take on it, I guess.

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    #601575
    MazyJane
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    @Maverick

    I described that same scenario to someone over the weekend. I felt like they had already handed out too many passing scores this window by the time they got to mine. I tested on 12/8. I had never tested during an extended window period before and never will again. I could be totally off base with my assumption, but it's all I have to go on for now. How do you explain people passing with high scores thinking they failed and people with failing scores so sure they passed? It happens way too often for it to be fluke. I think the whole curve (that they supposedly don't do) thing is so unfair. How am I going to reach the bar if they keep moving it?

    #601576
    mbbransc
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    Interesting theory. I've taken AUD 2x and thought I scored VERY high on both only to find out I failed (70 & 68). Especially the 2nd time, I would have bet my house that I passed. Both exams were taken on the last day of the test window.

    I passed FAR and felt iffy on it. I took it the first day of an exam window.

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    FAR - PASSED
    BEC - PASSED
    AUD - PASSED
    REG - 74
    <sigh>

    #601577
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I think the key to Audit is finishing through the MPCs quickly and have a lot of time to coast through the sims.

    #601578
    mbbransc
    Member

    I finished the AUD exam last time with 2 hrs remaining.

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    FAR - PASSED
    BEC - PASSED
    AUD - PASSED
    REG - 74
    <sigh>

    #601579
    Jsmi77y
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    The thought of taking a test on last day of testing Window has always scared me. This happened to me with Audit, but I've been intentionally taking test on the last day of the window so I don't have to wait for scores as long. I'm thinking this is the last time I'll do it.

    Hard to believe they would do this. But scary based on my own experience. I took FAR 12/06 and know I did better than my last time (74) so I'm hoping for a pass. If it's less then I'm likely to continue believing taking a test towards the end of the window is a poor decision.

    REG - 68 | 71 | 88 | 86
    FAR - 72 | 74 | 79
    AUD - 66 | 70 | 77
    BEC - 62 | 74 | 80

    Guess that means I'm a soon-to-be CPA!

    #601580
    Noct
    Participant

    I agree that it is difficult to gauge your performance on exam day. My first exam FAR was a beast, and I walked out sure that I had failed, but I had actually passed. By contrast, my second exam AUD seemed very easy and I even finished with time to spare, but I failed with a 65. This frustrated me, so I did a bit of research into how the exam is scored.

    It turns out that the ambiguity of the score is caused by the fact that the exam adjusts the difficulty of each testlet based on your performance in the prior testlet. At first, this sounds favorable because an easier testlet should be easier to pass right? WRONG! because they also weight the score of each question based on its difficulty.

    If you blow it on the first testlet it hurts you in two ways. #1, you lose the points for the wrong answers on the first testlet, and #2, the difficulty will go down for the next testlet which reduces your maximum possible score for the exam as a whole, even if you get all the remaining questions correct.

    The lesson to be learned is that you should take extra care with the first and second testlets as they have a compounded effect on your score. The third and fourth testlets do not. Also, if it seems like the difficulty is going up from testlet to testlet, it is a good sign! as it means you did well on the previous testlet.

    FAR - 79 - 07/2012
    AUD - 65, 78 - 11/2012
    BEC - 76 - 11/2012
    REG - 78 - 01/2013
    ETH - 98 - 01/2013

    Material: Wiley books

    #601581
    Jsmi77y
    Member

    Sometimes I feel the CPA exam is just a joke, riddled with ambiguity.

    It's one thing to bar entry to candidates to maintain credibility, it's another to do so in such a non-experience related manner.

    That said, we have to deal with it :-/

    REG - 68 | 71 | 88 | 86
    FAR - 72 | 74 | 79
    AUD - 66 | 70 | 77
    BEC - 62 | 74 | 80

    Guess that means I'm a soon-to-be CPA!

    #601582
    FearTheBeard
    Participant

    @Maverick

    The AICPA doesn't “fail 52% to ensure that only 48% (highest scores in the population) will pass”. Did you see the pass rates for the 3rd quarter this year? 50.08% for AUD, 57.63% for BEC, 53.91% for FAR, and 51.26% for REG. All over 50%, unless my math is wrong.

    @MazyJane

    Read @Noct‘s explanation on testlet difficulty instead of making up crazy conspiracy theories. Do you really think the AICPA would fail you because “they had already handed out too many passing scores”? Sorry if I'm being brash, but I studied my ass off to pass my exams. To read what you and @Maverick wrote, that the AICPA is “handing out passing grades”, diminishes the effort of many people on this forum, including me. I made these exams my second job. I studied at the library for hours when I got off work, then studied more when I went home. I studied on trains, on planes, and on toilets. Maybe you should do the same.

    #601583
    Noct
    Participant

    Just thought I should add that while the AICPA does not “curve” exam scores. They do adjust the weighting of individual questions based on how many people answered them correctly. Basically, if the majority of testers get a question correct, they will consider it an easier question and therefore weight it lower. If few people get a question correct, they weight it heavier (and probably check it for fairness / clarity). They even take into account “guess questions” where the majority of testers answer one of two options, and they weight these questions lower.

    All of this is done live by their magical grading algorithms, so the exact same question may be weighted differently from one testing window to the next.

    Another factor which causes ambiguity is the “pretest” or “survey” questions, which do not count toward your score.

    FAR - 79 - 07/2012
    AUD - 65, 78 - 11/2012
    BEC - 76 - 11/2012
    REG - 78 - 01/2013
    ETH - 98 - 01/2013

    Material: Wiley books

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