Here is my story. I'm a Canadian IT Business Analyst working mostly with accounting applications. 2 years ago I attended a Becker CPA Review presentation here in Canada. They told me they would find a state, where I would be able to pass the exam and get my designation. First they sent my papers to New Hampshire and then changed it to Maine. Then I received a letter from Maine Accounting Board stating that I was eligible for CPA examination. So I enrolled in Becker CPA courses and finally passed all 4 exams.
\nToday I received the "congratulatory" letter from CPA examination services stating that now after having passed the examination requirements I need a proof of a 2 years work experience in public accounting and now I'm in a state of shock and disbelief. Did I waste 2 years of my life in vain? I'm not mentioning here the cost of tuition and passing the exams.
\nDon't gey me wrong, I'm not interested in practising accounting in the States. I simply want to add CPA designation to my credentials and improve my marketability as a business systems consultant.
\nDid Becker CPA Canada misinformed me? Did Maine requirements change? What should I do? Your advice will be greatly appreciated.\n
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Wanless Park
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WICPAHOPEFUL
offlineMemberYou need to see if there is a "work experience equivalent". Here in WI, the statutes actually list what is considered equivalent to 1 year of public accounting experience and they list all of the different activities you could do to satisfy that requirement. I am in your same situation. I don't have an undergard in accounting. I have a masters in tax and only 6 months of an internship in public accounting. For the past three years I have been working in industry as a tax accountant and based on what I do everyday, i will meet the requirement for WI even though I don't have the public accounting experience. Plus my boss and our CFO both are CPAs.\n
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Wanless Park
offlineMemberWICPAHOPEFUL,
\nThank you for sharing your story. Unfortunately I work in IT and my boss has nothing to do with accounting. Even our controller doesn't have an accounting designation and our Financial Manager has a Canadian designation (not CPA).
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\nI have an MBA degree with double major in marketing and finance/accounting. Regarding my work, I implement and support functionally and technically financial modules of an ERP system (General Ledger, Accounts Receivable, Account Payable,Cash Management etc). I also work with auditors every time there is an internal/external audit. This is as far as it goes.\nPosted 6 hours ago # -
strider4216
offlineMemberWanless, most states require you to have work experience under the supervision of a licensed CPA..it could be consulting/accounting/finance/IT work, etc. etc. but you have to have a CPA sign off on your work (check the state handbook/website for specifics).
\nThis is my problem too because I'm going into consulting and none of my managers are CPA's..I don't know if I can get a sign off by a director or someone from the accounting department because it's not direct supervision, but regardless they usually give you several years to get the work requirement so my other plan is to find a job later on that is under a CPA.
\nI can assure you if any rules changed in Maine it would not effect you, they wouldn't drastically change the rules and not keep an exemption for people who started the process when the rules were different.
\nI wouldn't worry too much Wanless, because you still have all the tests passed and you might be able to find a creative way to get your work signed off on, just gotta contact your state.\n
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zena
offlineMemberWanless Park, you might be able to use the work you do with the auditors as your experience and have the CPA firm that does the audit sign off. Ask them to see if they would agree to it and also check with your state board that the work would indeed qualify. Like Strider said, there are many ways to satisfy that requirement. Good luck to you!\n
\nFAR 86 | BEC 94 | AUD 90 | REG 85
All done! used BeckerPosted 6 hours ago # -
Wanless Park
offlineMemberGuys,
\nI'm in Canada. We don't really have CPA's here. I would say the Canadian equivalent (or at least the closest one) is CA (Chartered Accountant). In our company we don't even have CA's. The controller has MBA degree only (same as me) and the Finance Manager has CGA (Certified General Accountant) or CMA (Certified General Accountant). I don't remember exactly. In my first company in Canada we had 2 CA's and I haven't seen them since 2006.\n
\nPosted 6 hours ago # -
shikhye
offlineMemberWell it's time to dig some papers and find those people pal. Don't know what else to tell ya. You can think of it this way though... if you want to become a cpa in the future you don't need to take the exams. I also passed all my exams but I am waiting on my state to approve my application for license. Meanwhile, I am putting a bullet point on my resume stating that I am expected to become a cpa in februrary. I also have a section that says I passed all four sections.... but I guess your situation is different since you just need credentials to put on your business card right? To get more clients? If it makes you feel any better you're not alone in this predicament. I know quite of few people who passed all their exams but have no one to sign off on their experience. But as we discuss about their situation, they remember that there was one cpa wayyyyyy back when, and they decide to call them up. Another encouraging point is that these people are required to sign off if you really did work for the company... if they don't the state board will inquire why they didn't sign it. So even if you were an a$$ or a lazy worker, most if not all of them will sign off for you. You may need to get more CPE requirements if it has been more than 5 years since you had those work experience though.\n
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75 CPA - Ensure you know your state's experience requirements. Each state sets their own requirements. I am from Indiana, and Indiana does not require you to work directly for a CPA for the experience requirements. The CPA must only have knowledge of your work experience. If you have not started taking the exam, you might want to look at the different state requirements before starting.
\nGood Luck.\n
\nBecker - FAR 80, AUD 73, 81, BEC 76, REG 81 (2010) DONE!!!! IN LICENSED CPAPosted 6 hours ago # -
PursuitCPA
offlineMember@75 CPA "I am afraid that no CPA firm will hire me because of my age(Forget the age). Getting a CPA license may be more difficult for me than passing the four CPA exams! "
\nIts not your age in general, its the whole industry...I never thought it would be a struggle majoring in accounting versus marketing, sociology, or criminal justice to find a meaningful position than passing these exams. If your not working in this country its almost like a "dont ask dont tell" policy...\n
\nCPA EXAM - PassedPosted 6 hours ago # -
Tim94111
offlineMemberYou guys should check out the "CPA Certificate" designation in Delaware. You can use the title "CPA" but does not allow you to practice.
\nhttp://dpr.delaware.gov/boards/accountancy/newcertificate.shtml\n
\nAUD 70, 85 / REG 66, 85 / BEC 74, 80 / FAR 76 -->DONEPosted 6 hours ago # -
Wanless Park
offlineMemberTim94111,
\nIf you read this document carefully, you will see that since 2006 there is one application in Delaware for both certificate and license. In other words, it is no longer a two-tier CPA state. So far I figured out that Illinois still issues certificates but since I was educated outside North America, they will need to evaluate my education credentials from scratch even if it was already done by FASS, when I applied for exam permit with Maine Accounting Board. I'm also checking Colorado but it's not clear yet if my education (MBA) is sufficient to compensate for the lack of public accounting experience.\n
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Cowpatty
offlineMemberwhat waste of time .......seriously if it will not help you
\nyour better off being good at what you do then a CPA license you never need or will use; I compare that to those ppl who work 12 hrs days only to play solitare on their computers for "face time"
\nsome IT ppl could use it as marketing ploy for delevoping in house systems.......
\nmy IT person actually has a CPA and it is nice to have that kind of knowledge backing you up in your software.......atleast for empathy.........but really not worth it
\nMBA is good enough if it is like 2004+\n
\nAud 76 Bec 76 Reg 83 Far 2/27/2010Posted 6 hours ago # -
Wanless Park
offlineMemberHere is my story. I'm a Canadian IT Business Analyst working mostly with accounting applications. 2 years ago I attended a Becker CPA Review presentation here in Canada. They told me they would find a state, where I would be able to pass the exam and get my designation. First they sent my papers to New Hampshire and then changed it to Maine. Then I received a letter from Maine Accounting Board stating that I was eligible for CPA examination. So I enrolled in Becker CPA courses and finally passed all 4 exams.
Today I received the "congratulatory" letter from CPA examination services stating that now after having passed the examination requirements I need a proof of a 2 years work experience in public accounting and now I'm in a state of shock and disbelief. Did I waste 2 years of my life in vain? I'm not mentioning here the cost of tuition and passing the exams.
Don't gey me wrong, I'm not interested in practising accounting in the States. I simply want to add CPA designation to my credentials and improve my marketability as a business systems consultant.
Did Becker CPA Canada misinformed me? Did Maine requirements change? What should I do? Your advice will be greatly appreciated.Posted 2 years ago # -
WICPAHOPEFUL
offlineMemberYou need to see if there is a "work experience equivalent". Here in WI, the statutes actually list what is considered equivalent to 1 year of public accounting experience and they list all of the different activities you could do to satisfy that requirement. I am in your same situation. I don't have an undergard in accounting. I have a masters in tax and only 6 months of an internship in public accounting. For the past three years I have been working in industry as a tax accountant and based on what I do everyday, i will meet the requirement for WI even though I don't have the public accounting experience. Plus my boss and our CFO both are CPAs.
Posted 2 years ago # -
Wanless Park
offlineMemberWICPAHOPEFUL,
Thank you for sharing your story. Unfortunately I work in IT and my boss has nothing to do with accounting. Even our controller doesn't have an accounting designation and our Financial Manager has a Canadian designation (not CPA).
I have an MBA degree with double major in marketing and finance/accounting. Regarding my work, I implement and support functionally and technically financial modules of an ERP system (General Ledger, Accounts Receivable, Account Payable,Cash Management etc). I also work with auditors every time there is an internal/external audit. This is as far as it goes.Posted 2 years ago # -
strider4216
offlineMemberWanless, most states require you to have work experience under the supervision of a licensed CPA..it could be consulting/accounting/finance/IT work, etc. etc. but you have to have a CPA sign off on your work (check the state handbook/website for specifics).
This is my problem too because I'm going into consulting and none of my managers are CPA's..I don't know if I can get a sign off by a director or someone from the accounting department because it's not direct supervision, but regardless they usually give you several years to get the work requirement so my other plan is to find a job later on that is under a CPA.
I can assure you if any rules changed in Maine it would not effect you, they wouldn't drastically change the rules and not keep an exemption for people who started the process when the rules were different.
I wouldn't worry too much Wanless, because you still have all the tests passed and you might be able to find a creative way to get your work signed off on, just gotta contact your state.
Posted 2 years ago # -
zena
offlineMemberWanless Park, you might be able to use the work you do with the auditors as your experience and have the CPA firm that does the audit sign off. Ask them to see if they would agree to it and also check with your state board that the work would indeed qualify. Like Strider said, there are many ways to satisfy that requirement. Good luck to you!
FAR 86 | BEC 94 | AUD 90 | REG 85
All done! used BeckerPosted 2 years ago # -
Wanless Park
offlineMemberGuys,
I'm in Canada. We don't really have CPA's here. I would say the Canadian equivalent (or at least the closest one) is CA (Chartered Accountant). In our company we don't even have CA's. The controller has MBA degree only (same as me) and the Finance Manager has CGA (Certified General Accountant) or CMA (Certified General Accountant). I don't remember exactly. In my first company in Canada we had 2 CA's and I haven't seen them since 2006.
Posted 2 years ago # -
shikhye
offlineMemberWell it's time to dig some papers and find those people pal. Don't know what else to tell ya. You can think of it this way though... if you want to become a cpa in the future you don't need to take the exams. I also passed all my exams but I am waiting on my state to approve my application for license. Meanwhile, I am putting a bullet point on my resume stating that I am expected to become a cpa in februrary. I also have a section that says I passed all four sections.... but I guess your situation is different since you just need credentials to put on your business card right? To get more clients? If it makes you feel any better you're not alone in this predicament. I know quite of few people who passed all their exams but have no one to sign off on their experience. But as we discuss about their situation, they remember that there was one cpa wayyyyyy back when, and they decide to call them up. Another encouraging point is that these people are required to sign off if you really did work for the company... if they don't the state board will inquire why they didn't sign it. So even if you were an a$$ or a lazy worker, most if not all of them will sign off for you. You may need to get more CPE requirements if it has been more than 5 years since you had those work experience though.
Posted 2 years ago # -
75 CPA - Ensure you know your state's experience requirements. Each state sets their own requirements. I am from Indiana, and Indiana does not require you to work directly for a CPA for the experience requirements. The CPA must only have knowledge of your work experience. If you have not started taking the exam, you might want to look at the different state requirements before starting.
Good Luck.
Becker - FAR 80, AUD 73, 81, BEC 76, REG 81 (2010) DONE!!!! IN LICENSED CPAPosted 2 years ago # -
PursuitCPA
offlineMember@75 CPA "I am afraid that no CPA firm will hire me because of my age(Forget the age). Getting a CPA license may be more difficult for me than passing the four CPA exams! "
Its not your age in general, its the whole industry...I never thought it would be a struggle majoring in accounting versus marketing, sociology, or criminal justice to find a meaningful position than passing these exams. If your not working in this country its almost like a "dont ask dont tell" policy...
CPA EXAM - PassedPosted 2 years ago # -
Tim94111
offlineMemberYou guys should check out the "CPA Certificate" designation in Delaware. You can use the title "CPA" but does not allow you to practice.
http://dpr.delaware.gov/boards/accountancy/newcertificate.shtml
AUD 70, 85 / REG 66, 85 / BEC 74, 80 / FAR 76 -->DONEPosted 2 years ago # -
Wanless Park
offlineMemberTim94111,
If you read this document carefully, you will see that since 2006 there is one application in Delaware for both certificate and license. In other words, it is no longer a two-tier CPA state. So far I figured out that Illinois still issues certificates but since I was educated outside North America, they will need to evaluate my education credentials from scratch even if it was already done by FASS, when I applied for exam permit with Maine Accounting Board. I'm also checking Colorado but it's not clear yet if my education (MBA) is sufficient to compensate for the lack of public accounting experience.
Posted 2 years ago # -
Cowpatty
offlineMemberwhat waste of time .......seriously if it will not help you
your better off being good at what you do then a CPA license you never need or will use; I compare that to those ppl who work 12 hrs days only to play solitare on their computers for "face time"
some IT ppl could use it as marketing ploy for delevoping in house systems.......
my IT person actually has a CPA and it is nice to have that kind of knowledge backing you up in your software.......atleast for empathy.........but really not worth it
MBA is good enough if it is like 2004+
Aud 76 Bec 76 Reg 83 Far 2/27/2010Posted 2 years ago #
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