Dividends Received Deduction

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  • #185003
    Anonymous
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    Ok, I’m confused.

    According to Becker, if you have a positive TI after calculating, use the LESSER of the full DRD or DRD % times TI.

    But according to ninja notes, if positive TI remains, use DRD % times TI. No lesser of or anything.

    Am I missing something?

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    Racergirl
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    The DRD deduction is limited to TI times the % used to calculate the DRD. The limitation is not required if the full DRD would create or enhance a net operating loss. DRD is a 3 step process.

    Example: Loss from X Company ($10,000)

    Dividend received (owns 10% of stock of Y Company) $100,000

    TI before DRD $90,000

    Step 1: Full DRD $100,000 * 70% = $70,000

    Step 2: Taxable Income Limitation $ 90,000 * 70% = $63,000 – Use this number

    Step 3: Income/Loss with Full DRD $ 90,000 – $ 70,000 = $20,000

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    FAR - 70, 73, 79!
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    #544692
    Racergirl
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    The DRD deduction is limited to TI times the % used to calculate the DRD. The limitation is not required if the full DRD would create or enhance a net operating loss. DRD is a 3 step process.

    Example: Loss from X Company ($10,000)

    Dividend received (owns 10% of stock of Y Company) $100,000

    TI before DRD $90,000

    Step 1: Full DRD $100,000 * 70% = $70,000

    Step 2: Taxable Income Limitation $ 90,000 * 70% = $63,000 – Use this number

    Step 3: Income/Loss with Full DRD $ 90,000 – $ 70,000 = $20,000

    AUD - 76!
    REG - 66, 78!
    BEC - 69, 69, 75!
    FAR - 70, 73, 79!
    Ethics Test - 98!

    ILBOE Certificate of Certified Public Accounting issued May 5, 2014
    State of Illinois License effective August 1, 2014

    CPAexcel, CPAreviewforfree, Ninja Notes

    #544677
    Anonymous
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    Thanks, I think I got it.

    I guess one of Becker's examples was confusing me (see below):

    TI before DRD $150,000

    Step 1: Full DRD $100,000 * 80% = $80,000

    Step 2: Taxable Income Limitation $ 150,000 * 80% = $120,000

    Step 3: Income/Loss with Full DRD $ 150,000 – $80,000 = $20,000 – Use this number (Per Becker)

    Why not use the $120,000 (limited to TI * DRD%) if the full DRD does not create a loss?

    That's what I meant by using the “lesser of” Step 1 and Step 2.

    #544694
    Anonymous
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    Thanks, I think I got it.

    I guess one of Becker's examples was confusing me (see below):

    TI before DRD $150,000

    Step 1: Full DRD $100,000 * 80% = $80,000

    Step 2: Taxable Income Limitation $ 150,000 * 80% = $120,000

    Step 3: Income/Loss with Full DRD $ 150,000 – $80,000 = $20,000 – Use this number (Per Becker)

    Why not use the $120,000 (limited to TI * DRD%) if the full DRD does not create a loss?

    That's what I meant by using the “lesser of” Step 1 and Step 2.

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