Thanks, Ashley! Hope we both pass!
Thanks, Ashley! Hope we both pass!
hey~could you guys tell us which sections were heavily tesed? my friends told me that the most heavily tesed are bonds, pension, governmental and NFP. it is true for you? Thanks!
williamcwlee - We are not suppose to disclose anything about the exam topics. So I can't tell you. Good luck!
I think leases is also heavily tested....from what I've read! Studying for FAR, currently!
I can say that although I had some reoccurring topics, there were areas that I studied really heavily and only got one-two questions on while some pretty random topics that reminded me a bit of F2 ( the 90 question bit) appeared. What I also find pretty annoying was some of the topics that I studied very hard for had these pretty ridiculous twists on them that were never covered in Becker so you're kind of left to guess how to go about it. Best advice is to prepare as much as you can and don't freak out when you see something you're unfamiliar with because it WILL happen lol
Took FAR yesterday and I would say that this was the first time I have walked out of an exam feeling that well , like others, first testlet was a breeze although I did mark 2 question, second testlet was pretty long and had some weird questions. I totally guessed a couple of questions. 3 rd testlet was somewhat the same but less difficuilt.
As for the simulation, They were not really that bad and I thought I did pretty well on most of them. all were doable in my opinion and all were covered in the wiley's.
Even though I feel really good, I'm still hoping that I passed because you never know. but I'm very glad this test is over with.
Good luck to the rest !
@bkkguru: Sounds like it went well for you! I hope you passed, I'm sure you did:) What an awesome feeling to be DONE!!
I'm studying for FAR and omg, how did everyone manage through these materials? I just wanna cry...there's way too much to learn:(
I have been reading the posts. What a comfort it is to know you are not alone! I took FAR last Friday. I felt really good about the MC Testlets. The Simulations were BRUTAL! I left the building, sat down and called my Dad in tears. I have given birth twice, and I swear I think giving birth was eaiser! The Sims were a doable but not in an hour and 20 minutes. I do not believe that Becker perpared me for the LENGTH and DETAIL I would face on my Sims. I should be thankful I only have to wait two weeks for my score but right now, two weeks seem forever. It is time to study AUD but I feel like I cannot focus because I do not know if I failed. I knew when I started this process that it would be difficult. What I did not realize, was how much of a mind game this would be. It is very emotional. You pour your life into the study process for weeks (months in my case) and then it all comes down to being strong for four hours and getting some "lucky" questions. I just keep praying that I see a 75 pop up in a few weeks! I am afraid the Sims will cause me to fail!
Took FAR this afternoon:
First Testlet- pretty easy. There were 2-3 I was pretty iffy on, but I felt very good about most of the questions.
Second Testlet - Murder. Bloody murder. I knew about 3 of the first 10 questions, which set me into a bit of a panic. The next 20 weren't so bad, but I'd say I got anywhere between 20-23 right probably. Some of this stuff was not even touched in Becker. Very frustrating.
Third Testlet- much easier than the second, but not as easy as the first. Sometimes I wonder if they have easy, medium, hard and "let's just mess with these people" testlet difficulties.
Sims were pretty brutal as well. I felt great about 2, OK about 4, and had the old WTF moment on one. I couldn't find my research question for the life of me until I had 2 minutes to go in the test (going to church on Sunday to thank the big guy for that one). I agree with cland, I don't think Becker's simulations even come close to the real test's in terms of difficulty. I feel like I at least gave myself a chance to pass, which is all you can hope for with these tests, I guess.
Question for everyone: On my sims, sometimes I would click the wrong account name/too many accounts when doing journal entries and not end up having to use all of the account names, so a journal entry would end up looking like this:
DR: Cash 10,000
CR: Common Stock 4,000
CR: APIC - C/S 6,000
DR: Accounts Payable
(For those worried about disclosure, this was nothing that was on my test- just an example). I wouldn't need the Accounts Payable entry, but I accidentally clicked on it and couldn't figure out how to get rid of the "Accounts Payable." Nothing wouldn't be in the numeric boxes though. Will I be counted off for this? And for future reference, is there a way you can delete accounts you don't use if you accidentally put them in?
First click on the box. Then hit back space. that should delete the answer from that box.
ddtspir06- Thanks. I can't even believe I didn't think to try that. It never worked when I tried that in Becker, and I just didn't even think to try it during the exam. Well, that just goes to show you what this exam can do to you. I forgot how to use a computer. I just hope they don't take off too many points for my extra little inputs.
@CPA it was my second time taking FAR, But someone told me that FAR should be the easiest. it just looks overwhelming because of the amount of material but they generally just test you on the general stuff which is very true.
Just keep going at it and eventually it will all come together...
@bkkguru: Thanks, that makes me feel little better. I should be done with F5 by tonight....and hopefully by F7 this weekend. I'm taking the exam in little less than a month. I'm currently not working, so I hope I'll have enough time to do Wiley testbank. I keep doubting myself that I won't finish this, but you think it's enough time right?
I am taking the exam tomorrow at 2:30PM in California. I am feeling extremely overwhelmed and feel like I am about to have an anxiety attack. Is this normal? ughhh, so much material.
Very normal. I spent a ton of time studying FAR and never felt like I had covered all the material.
Yeah, Home Stretch, will be okay. Think everyone gets overwhelmed by FAR. Probably good idea to try to calm down. Worst case scenario you have to re-take it. Yeah its not so great but could be a lot worse ;) Mental note - maybe skip the morning coffee is you're still feeling anxious tomorrow. Best of luck!!
How important is basically memorizing the formula for dollar value LIFO? Should I memorize it or just know basic info about it? After thinking about it, it doesn't seem like a good use of time/brain power to memorize how to calculate the entire thing.
@CPA Once your are finished with F7 , all you have left is the governmental and Not for profit which is almost the same. and should really be easy. You will have more than enough time in 2-3 weeks time
I mean, even if you dont feel ready just dont panic and keep going at it. no one ever feels ready for that exam , always feels overwhelming.
keep going at it, will come all together in 2 weeks when you are doing the review
@Mavs, just know how to answer the dollar value questions in becker or wiley's I dont think those questions require a formula , just understand it I guess
I took FAR yesterday. I have to admit, my exam experience was unlike any of you guys, I feel.
For one, I thought MCQs were extremely hard from the beginning. I was saying WTF at least every 4 problems. The problems were neither wordy nor tricky. and I couldn't tell if they were getting harder or that they tested more on topics that I was unprepared in.(because I thought they were hard to begin with)
For one thing, my second testlet, I had a lot of concept problems that tested on extremely minute details and called for uncanny distinction and knowledge of exceptions. Otherwise, the ones involving calculations were pretty easy and straightforward.(perhaps I wasn't getting practice enough of areas)
I have to say, I feel all testlets were about the same =(
The TBS weren't so shocking. I feel you can practice this looking at comprehensive examples in Becker and Wiley textbook. It is true, the sample problems you do aren't the same, but you can still practice them. You must go through the text and constantly ask yourself if you would be able to do comprehensive examples in the book as a SIM etc.
I am sending in my NTS for a retake =(
I allocated 1 hour and 30 minutes to SIMS. I had originally wanted to use only 80 minutes. But I just didn't know MCQs so I didn't want to linger. I didn't think I needed all that time, but I did!
@Home Stretch, your exam does sound different from other posters' experiences. Anything goes with the AICPA right? I bet those MCQs that killed your confidence in the exam were all pre-test! :) We read posts all the time when people think they failed and then ended up passing so don't lose all hope yet!
Thank you EELCPA. I have to admit, Not For Profit killed me and I misread the test composition. I thought governmental AND Not-for profit made up 10%, altogether and not 10% each. I guess it wouldn't be too bad if I had to restudy all of this, as I would probably say to myself, "oh! I didn't learn that the first time around!"
Whyme said, "I can tell you that the actual exam sims are much more in depth than any of the sims in the review material."
I absolutely 100% agree.
If I borderline pass FAR, then it will be because I used the research tab for non-research SIMs. Those sims were crazy hard.
Using the research tab available for all sims is such a valuable tool. I've found so many answers for sims from just searching through the research tab. On my audit exam I was able to just copy and paste what it was asking for and find an entire sim word for word.
@cland - I just took my first test (FAR) Friday and was thinking the same thing about childbirth being easier than this exam! At least I had something to show for it afterwards! I also thought the SIMS were much lengthier and detailed than what I practiced with Becker.
I left about 90 minutes for the SIMS; I think I did 5 of them OK or so-so, one of them I completely bombed because of time constraints and lack of JE knowledge on the subject (which Becker never mentioned), and the research question I hopefully got correct or partially correct. When I did the practice exams in Becker, I usually finished the entire tests with an hour left because the SIMS were so short. This one I ended with 36 seconds on the clock but could have used more time because of that one very challenging SIM. Fortunately I didn't look through all my tabs first but started at the beginning and plodded through them in order. I think I would have freaked out if I had looked at all of them first.
Being that this was my first test, I don't really have any idea how I did or how I feel about it. Too many variables.
Seems like you did well!! I'm sure you passed!
The more I think about it. the more I think I failed. The wait is agonizing. But I won't be checking my score until AFTER I take audit. Just in case I start raging around the house.
@Home Stretch, wow you're disciplined. I don't think I would have the strength to not check my score...I'm taking BEC on May 30th so I'll get my FAR score a few days before then and I really don't think I'll be able to not look at it.
I know, I am tempted to look too. But I have a bad feeling.
Anyway, how did your test go EELCPA?
I take it this Thursday, I'll be sure to post how dreadful it was on Thursday/Friday night :)
How do you all feel about people leaving 1-2 SIMS completely blank? I have read where people miss 2 entire SIMS and pass the exam! I agree, 4 is too many. But it seems if you miss 1 or 2, you can hope 1 is the pre-test and you killed the MCQ.
I had a friend that said he left 2 SIMS blank and he ended up passing with a 75. I at least answered all of them but ended up failing...go figure.
just took FAR today.
testlet 1: pretty easy, I am sure about almost all my answers.
testlet 2: totally a disaster!!!! it was a lot harder than the first one. i was only sure on less than half of the questions.
testlet 3: incredible easy. So i don't think i did that well on the second testlet.
Sims: easier than expected, but still some were challenging. totally screwed up on one of the questions, hope it was pretest.
I prepared for almost two months but I won't be surprised if I fail the exam.
I took FAR yesterday and wanted to make sure I posted on here because after reading a lot of posts I was completely terrified by FAR, especially the SIMS.
Testlet 1: Completely manageable. Done in 30 minutes.
Testlet 2 & 3: Definitely harder than 1, but still pretty manageable. There were some questions that were pretty tricky and I didn't want to waste my time on them because I knew I would need it for the sims. I flat out guessed on 1 question and I was iffy on a bunch of others, but I could always narrow it down to 2 choices. Done in 45 minutes each.
Sims: I had 2 hours left for these....Done with 45 minutes left to spare? I think I must have missed something. I re-read the questions and fiddled with the spots I was unsure on, recalculated everything to make sure I didn't make any dumb math mistakes (which I did, so I'm glad I recalculated everything). There were a couple sections of a few of the sims that I wasn't completely sure on. In one the layout of it was so strange, I didn't have any examples in Becker and Wiley sims like this (although the concept was covered) so I wasn't quite sure which fields to put what in. I'm sure I at least managed partial credit on that one (I hope). A couple others left me wondering if I was missing something because they seemed too basic. It was like when I was done with the question if it had been a Becker question it would have kept going, and going, but I was done a page and a half ago. Maybe I missed something there. The research was much more detailed than was in Becker so I'm still not sure if I got it right. Overall, I'm sure I got some partial credit on all of them, and only sure that I definitely got 1 entire sim right, and none were from outer space.
But, basically what I want to say is that the simulations were not much harder and detailed than the ones in Becker as others have said, at least not on my test. I only had one or two that even required me to scroll (which I'm thankful for because those monitors in the testing center are way too small). So, if you haven't taken it yet, don't worry too much, there are at least a few manageable sims out there.
PS, there was nothing that wasn't covered in Becker (and a lot in Becker that wasn't even on my exam). There are definitely some details that I wish I had spent more time on making sure they stuck in my brain, but overall it wasn't too bad. If I failed, at least I know it's totally passable. 3 weeks is a long time to wait.
@Eliz , I took a bathroom break also had about 40 minutes to spare for the simulations and was like wtf !
glad to know I'm not the only one
I am waiting on your good news with FAR!!!! Keep the faith, you are at the finish line baby!!!!
hey Yankee , good to hear from you.
how many more parts do you have left? I know you were planning on taking reg and I remember reading somewhere that you passed it, but not sure. How far along are you?
I took FAR on 4/13.
What I'm worried about is I didn't see the 2nd or 3rd testlets become harder. I was doing Becker 2011 and I know what the hard questions are like. I don't remember if there were paragraph-long questions. Actually, I felt almost all questions were easy. I didn't feel I failed that much but testlet didn't get harder. I could leave more than 1:30 after taking a break.
Then simulations. They were all super difficult. Even ASC one was hard. There was a question I'd never seen before at all. So I assumed it was the one not graded. And other three, I wasn't sure how I can apply my knowledge. And those were the ones like if failed the first question, all left will be incorrect. The other question was from the area I didn't study much.
I was doing Becker 100 questions 5 times within a week before the exam and was getting 85-89% constantly. Becker Final exam was 74% with 60/40 adjustment. I could solve difficult MC but the hard simulations were too much for me.
I don't know how they grade but I wanted easy simulations. I think I failed.
I took my first exam today. Let me just start by saying that it would be a complete miracle if I passed. I've read what some posters have wrote about how the AICPA knows exactly what your weak spots are, they were right and boy do they like to throw them at you, repeatedly, one right after another and then a few more after that! I probably would've done better with the MCQs had I not been stressing out and my mind going into total shock. There were quite a few where I would think "Whatttt??" I knew what they were asking for but they really do try to mess with your head and make you work through the problem with the best logic you have (something that proved to be a very daunting task given our time constraints) The SIMs were "okay". I wasn't able to finish 2 of them---that was probably the most frustrating part. I literally timed out and wanted to scream. I didn't leave the SIMs completely blank though, I managed to put in the account names for the JEs and add some zeros.
I don't think that anyone can explain what you are about to walk into before you take your first exam. You just have to go see for yourself. Regardless of how I performed today on my test I've learned a lot just sitting from that one exam.
1. There is no use in stressing.
2. These exams are totally doable (if you can keep your nerves in check)
3. The AICPA is the devil.
Now, I join the score release forum and play the waiting game. I just pray that I don't get a really embarrassing score.
I took FAR on April 9th for the 5th time. I've been trying to pass this monster since May 2008. I got a 74 last time (November 2009). I studied like mad and learned all the new IFRS material but when exam time came I did not feel ready. It was a brutal exam with all kinds of calculations and I HATE that calculator. I did the best I could. I had a splitting headache when I came out. I saw that Jeff posted that scores would be released today. I am at work late and everyone has left, so I figured I'd sign on to NASBA and get my score. To my utter surprise I PASSED! Finally- the funny thing is I got a 75, but that is all you need. I will start studying for Auditing next.
So anyway, no matter how hard you thought your exam was, keep trying, because you could still pass like I did!
@Lisa Jane - congrats! good news for your weekend... I hope I get that score at least after my exam on 5/31 - the very last day in the window. My first exam ever so now I am studying to the max.
Good luck on the 31st! Study everything because you never know what they will test. Sometimes you tell yourself that they won't test a certain topic and then they always do. Practice those multiple choice over and over and over. Give yourself 45 min for each testlet and 90 minutes for the sims. Time management is so tough. Best of luck and I hope you get your passing score back fast.
For those of you that have seen my earlier post on this thread, I was really worried that the SIMs had destroyed me but today I found out that I passed! I think was really helped me was using certain tactics. There was a SIM that I didn't have a lot of time to answer and it involved plugging numbers into two columns and you had to know which particular column the answer went and the remaining column had to be answered with "0". Since I really wasn't sure- I used 0's for the entire SIM since I knew I would get at least half of it! Things like that really saved me, would really hate to retake it. Good luck to all my California friends waiting for scores, although I'm testing in Cali- my licensure will be going through NY state.
I think I had that same SIM as you, but the difference was that I left it completely blank because I ran out of time! I studied hard and felt prepared for the exam, but walked away from the test center with my tail between my legs because I left a SIM blank. I found out last night that I passed with an 84!!! Congrats to us!
@mgoloubenko - Yeah! and great tip, I will use that on May 31st. And also yeah for you Quasi CPA! it would be so nice to have this over with, I am like so overlong to get this done. Bring on all the tips...
i pass FAR yessss. i was so worried bc my MC test didnt get harder but the score report says that I was stronger in my MC than sims. so if the test didnt seem to get harder dont worry. score 85! bam!
Lisa_Jane, mgoloubenko, QuasiCPA and ddtspir06 super congrats to all of you!!! FAR is a killer & such a good one to have out of the way. I'm sure everyone would rather re-take any section before FAR. You all must feel awesome. Glad all your hard work paid off! I live in TX so hope to celebrate with you Mon...
Wmalvino,hoping very hard that you'll be joining us on this side I can't believe how long Texas is waiting! Totally unfair!
I agree with ddtspir06. Never think about whether the teslets are getting harder. I thought for sure that I did horrible because my second testlet didn't get harder and had more concept questions than calculations. My third testlet was little harder, but not by too much. Don't let it psyche you out!
@mgoloubenko: How has studying for BEC coming along? I'm so glad we passed FAR, including cyn637. I have even more determination to pass AUD because I never want to take FAR again. I was helping a friend who's currently studying for FAR and I couldn't believe how many formula's I've already forgotten.
I know! I looked at my index cards yesterday that I've just kept around since I didn't think I would pass and I've already forgotten so much. I think it was really clutch for us to start with FAR because I really felt that if I was to fail any of the four it would have been this one. I haven't started on BEC yet since final projects, and finals have been dominating my life and then graduation on Friday! However the game plan is to start BEC studies on May 20th and take it July 1st! How is audit coming along?
@mgoloubenko, I am pretty sure I had the same sim as you as well. I didn't know how to do one or two things in it but I did all of it so I got credit just like you. I left another sim about a third blank and then completely guessed on another one. I know I nailed the multiple choice but I think the sims might have a pretty negative impact on my score. I didn't feel comfortable at all leaving the testing center. Too bad I am in Texas and I still don't know my score! It is really starting to get to me. From reading your experience it seems like you felt the same walking out of the test center as I did and still passed... that gives me some hope!
@Texas27, keep your hope alive because I really thought I'd messed the SIMs up badly enough because I was only 100% sure about 2 of them, got about 50% on three of them, and total wildcards on the remaining two
It is good to hear about not thinking the testlets got harder. That bogged me down for too long. Congratulations mgo, dtspir. And wish you the best for those waiting for scores still!
Sweet I passed! Good luck to all yall getting your scores in next window!!! Now back to AUD...
Congrats, any tips??
CPA628, wish I had tips! My strategy was much more about brute force lol. That is code for it was pretty time-consuming. I did what everyone says - MCQs till you puke :D
Congrats WMalvino & Texas27!!!!!!
Thanks mgoloubenko, congrats to you too... The multiple choice saved me. My score report showed stronger on the multiple choice and weaker on the sims. I knew I did horrible on the sims but I did enough to pass!
I wish I could see a score report, all I have is the Nasba score!
Hi guys - I've been stalking this forum for a while. I studied for FARE over 300 hours and had an "incident" when i was at the testing center. I got a terrible nose bleed 10 minutes after I sat down. I have to leave the room and clean myself up in the bathroom. By the time i sat back down to take my test I had lost almost the entire first hour. The first two testlets seemed difficult and the third much less difficI was only able to focus on the first 15 questions or so since i wassi totally crunched for time. I managed to narrow the last 10-15 questions to two answers and picked the best one. Got to the sims with about 30 minutes. I finished completely the first three sims and with 2 minutes left guessed on the research.
Leaving the exam i was absolutely sure i had failed,. I actually started studying again the next weekend, WHen I got my score it was unbelievably an 88! so... lesson learned...no matter how bad you think it went, you may just suprise yourself afterall!
AUD - 87
FAR - 88
I'm taking the FAR exam on 5/29 - I've been out of school for quite a few years. I passed AUD on the first attempt back in August, but I put a lot of lag time in between this FAR exam. It's been so hard to focus with so much material. I opted to do the Kaplan online review course. I thought it was good for AUD, but was not so impressed with the FAR online lectures. The text book and MP3 audio notes have seemed helpful. I am praying that I get through this. I will start taking some of the practice simulations this week, since it seems like a lot of people felt very challenged by the simulations. It's been a struggle for me. I hope everyone passes. With only three weeks left, I am really getting focused now. I took a few days off before Memorial Day weekend to study, so I'm hoping that helps a lot . . .
@essencescott, have you tried any of the NINJA products offered on this site? I was the same way with FAR, where I was overwhelemed with the amount of material in the study guides. I used the NINJA notes, which condensed the information into about 100 pages, and provided me with an easier guide to follow. I used the Becker study program, and the notes were a perfect supplement.
@mgoloubenko I have 3 weeks till the exam. I've finished my lectures a couple days ago. So now I'm reading/writing my NINJA notes, then I'll be doing thousands of MCs. Here's to hoping I pass.
@mcwingnutz - Thanks for the tip! I will take a look at the NINJA notes now. With three weeks left and the rest of the material, do you think I still have time to use them?
@essencescott - I absolutely believe you have time to use them as 3 weeks is about how long I used them. As I am sure you do as well, I have a full time job, so it was nice to have the notes that I could just read any time I had down time. I would also add my own notes to them from my becker study program during nights and weekends.
Most of the sections of the Ninja notes are about 5-10 pages long, so it allows you to quickly see the main points of each topic.
@mcwingnutz - Thanks again - I ordered the NINJA notes this evening. I do think this will help. Congratulations on being DONE!!
I have seen posts mentioning a score report as opposed to just a NASBA score. I just took FAR a couple weeks ago (my first exam) and will be watching for my score May 23 or so. Where does one get a score report? Is this something additional to the score, or does NASBA provide a report with your score?
yes you get a score report sooner or later. For CA test takers it comes when the score is reported. it just shows the category of the exam by % breakdown of the topics and the 3 different characteristics: weaker, comparable, stronger, that you scored under. it does this breakdown for overall MC and Sim as well.
I ended up taking FAR today, it was a lot more difficult then the first time I took it. It that a good thing? I mean I know the harder the question the more points you get, but it still doesn't help if you don't get the questions right. I think my testlets went from M H H, but still the SIMS were CRAZY. Idk, what a terrible FAR exp.
I took FAR today too. I agree with Mikey89. Sims were CRAZY!! Even though I think I did pretty well on mcqs, I really messed up on the sims. I used Becker and the sims tested are a lot different from the ones on becker. I know I'll have to wait till the score comes out but I think i failed. Any tip for sims? I really felt like becker wasn't enough for the sims.
@Mikey89 & @erinop: You guys are scaring me....ahh:( I'm really nervous to take this exam. Hope we all pass!!!
Ok, just finished FAR a little over an hour ago.
1st testlet - Doable
2nd testlet - Not very doable. I flagged about 8-10 but difficulty was off the charts. Each question was like a long story problem that took me forever to read.
3rd testlet - Doable, I must have screwed up the previous teslet.
TBS weren't too bad. Nailed the research and made educated guesses on about 2 of the simulations.
@CashMoney: I'm pretty sure you passed. I had a similar experience with AUD. I'm taking FAR in couple of weeks and am so so nervous. I knew FAR was going to be hard, but this is way too much....:(
I took my exam exactly a week ago and want to share my experience with the hope it may be helpful for someone. The first testlet was very easy - many one sentence, straight forward questions. They were mostly 'you either know it or not" type of questions. I was done in less than 30 minutes, but since I had allocated myself 30 minutes for the first testlet and knowing the importance of the first testlet in terms of the type of questions I will get next, I decided to review a few of the harder ones.
The second testlet got much, much harder. How did I know? I couldn't even pick an answer for the first two questions and flagged both of them! The majority of the questions were very involved requiring multiple steps to get to the answer. For example, when I got back to the first question, I ended up answering it by drawing 2 T accounts and then using the information from these T accounts to draft a journal entry to get the answer. Phew! Not only that but the questions were tricky with lots of distractions. I had several questions which were on a topic covered by Becker, but twisted in a way that wasn't presented in Becker nor I had expected when I was reviewing. I tried to be done with this testlet in 45 minutes, which in reality it turned out to be 50 minutes.
The third testlet was also hard, right on par, or maybe a notch down compared to the second testlet with lots of tricky questions. I was able to finish this one in my allocated 45 minutes.
The simulations were not terrifyingly hard, but definitely challenging. They went a step or two beyond what was covered in Becker. I actually had one sim that was related to something I do at my job. At first, I got excited thinking I will be confident with it. Then I started doing it and realized it had soo many curve balls thrown into it, I had to make a lot of educated guesses and at the end of the day it was the one sim I felt least comfortable with. And here comes perhaps my best tip: my research sim was very complicated and long. You know how sometimes you can read the research question and just know what they are talking about and generally where the answer is? Well, that wasn't the case for me. I had no idea what they were talking about and had never heard of such thing. I tried for about 15 minutes to find the answer and eventually gave up as I was getting no where. I mentally gave up on the research and told myself I will let that one go. Then about 2 minutes before my time ran out, I went back to it, picked the key phrase in the question, copied it and pasted it in the advance search option box that searches for an exact phrase. Boom. Got me to the exact paragraph they were looking for. I literally wrote my answer as the timer was showing 1 minute and 40 seconds left. But I know for sure that was the right answer. So, play around with that advance search option and look for exact phrases if you are having trouble with the research sim.
Coming out of the exam I felt...nothing. I wasn't confident nor terrified. I was just..calm in a way. Then I felt relief that the exam is behind me, followed by a flood of doubt a few hours later. To this day, I have no idea how I did and what the score will be on May 23rd. Hoping it's a pass. Good luck to you all!
@icanandwillpass: Thank you so much for the detailed explanations. It really helped:) As far as your passing score goes, I'm pretty sure you passed. It sounds like you did very well.
Just took FAR - I've passed 3 of 4 and I've never felt as horrible as I left Prometric. MC was straightforward, hard, and hard.
The SIMS was out of control. I nailed the 2 research questions, but two of the SIMS I wasn't able to finish. It was st
I know I failed but I'm trying to keep the faith. I just have to wait until May 22nd. I lose credit for BEC if I don't pass and I really don't want to study for it again.
I notice some people mention 1 research question and some mention having 2. I only had 1, with the rest being longer SIMS questions. Is there any significance to only having 1 instead of 2 or vice versa?
I took FAR about a month ago and will be finding my score on May 23rd (the second wave). I have read a couple of threads, especially this one. It seems like everyone that took the exam in the beginning of April had a good experience with the SIMS. I studied for FAR a lot and never did I feel like the MCQs got harder. My first testlet was very difficult, which I found very odd because I had a complete different experience with REG last quarter and I passed. The simulations were very challenging and focused on areas that I did not study intensely, yet even if I would have studied those areas harder I would have probably still gotten it wrong. Needless to say, I only think I was able to answer one of the sims correct which happens to be the research question. I really do not know what simulations you guys got, but mines were VERY difficult. As far as the MCQs, I did not find anything hard and the questions were probably easier than the ones in the Becker review (I know I got a tons of them correct), but I did not feel like the testlets got any harder. I am 101% sure I failed, but you never know because I felt the same exact way with REG-- but testlets did get harder.
Did anyone find the simulations in the second wave of FAR extremely hard, and perhaps impossible to do 100% correctly?!?
OMG I want to die.... FAR was a torture... I took it last Friday, I felt brainless when I came out of the exam... I ran out of time, but I didnt leave anything blank. I have mixed emotions about this exam, I hope I dont have to do it again. It is the hardest test I've ever taken. I already passed BEC and AUD, this will be my third part, the closer I get to being done (I HOPE) the more stress I feel. I'm going to be miserable until the test score is release for this part.... Im praying I pass, just by reading other posts that some people actually passed after feeling a little doubtful, I think I still have a shot... I just got to wait and see, then REG ugh
First post here, wishing I had read this before taking my exam last week! FAR was extremely overwhelming for me as far as trying to study it all. I am so glad to have the exam over...just praying for that 75.
Testlets - Honestly I don't remember thinking the difficulty changed much. I got through the first one fastest, but in all 3 I marked 2-3 to review. I didn't feel like there were too many computational questions. I was stressed about time as I had no idea how much I would need for the SIMS. It took me about 30 minutes on each of the first 2, then I took a 5 minute break. I didn't want to, but when I took AUD I continued right into testlet 3 and then wished I had taken a break, so I forced myself to take a break between 2 & 3 this time (I'm glad I did).
SIMS - After the MCQ's, I made the mistake of feeling pretty good about myself. I then opened my first SIM and that all flew out the window. Because it stressed me out so badly, I went ahead and took a quick look at what was to come. Then went back to 1. I thought the SIMS were AWFUL!!! Really, really bad. So then I had to fight the voice in my head telling me this is it, I'm failing this exam because of the SIMS. I had about an hour and 40 minutes, which I used all of. I am certain I got the research tab, and felt good on 1 other, ok on 2, bad on 1 and just plain awful on 2. Please please let one of those be the pretest. I literally just sat and stared at the screen for the last 15 minutes going wth are they asking for?!! I couldn't even come up with an educated guess.
This will be the longest 10 days ever waiting on my grade. The thought of studying FAR anymore...just can't do it. I used Becker and I do think it prepares you well. The SIMS are much harder in the actual exams, but this was true for AUD as well so I expected it (just not to this degree). I wish I had great advice, but all I can say is try and really LEARN as much as possible, and try not to let the amount of material overwhelm you. Keep a list of key topics and continually review as you go through the material. Good luck to you all!
Just took it today at 8! I've been regretting for chosing to take it too early. Oh well.
I'm not really confident about myself at all after this test. Based on everyone's post, I decided to leave 2 hours to do my sims so I rushed through my MCQ and did not double check any of mine. Then I finished Sims within 1 hour. Leaving 1 hour of boredom and madness. I'm pretty certain about 2 of the sims but the other ones probably 50% correct. I tried to find it in the research tab but not much help :(. I think people should leave 1.30 hrs for the sims. Not much of 2 hrs because you will be like me, rushing through mcq and not knowing for sure if you're doing it right or not :(.
I don't feel like the testlets get any harder. Even for me the first one was hard. Some question were definitely a joke. I'm sorta nervous right now just because i don't feel like i do too bad but not good either. When I did the practice questions, I got a lot of them wrong just because of careless mistakes about 1,2 little details that would throw people off. So i hope i didnt make any of those mistake because i did not double check mine :(.
I just need a 75. I hope I pass...somehow...When i looked over the materials after the test, I was like if i had to restudy this, it would be so awful...urghhh
Don't worry. Sounds like you did fine. I was also worried about the Sims, I never doubled checked any of the questions I answered and left myself with 1 hr 45 min for sims. I finished the sims in an hour and kicking myself for not spending more time on MC and double-checking my answers. If you read my FAR experience in the 1st page, it sounds exactly like your experience.
forever4 your situation sounded like mine. I looked over the MCQ after the test and found out I got so many wrong. Additionally, I felt my test didn't get any harder and I considered the intial test already hard. I needed all 1 hour and 30 minutes of my SIMS though. The research took me too long. As for the others, I was abolutely sure one was a pretest, because I have never seen that question in my entire accounting career, book, lecture of any kind ever.
Yea, but even one hour and 30 minutes is a lot. I think I maximized the amount of points I could get with 10 minutes to spare.
Don't worry about the MC. Usually your first choice is correct. And I am pretty sure the test questions weren't as tricky as you thought they were.
I rather have my kidney eaten by a bird and my kidney regrow and have that happen for 2 months again than restudy FAR. Pain doesn't even begin to describe the experience..
Thanks for your post people. I'm also hoping that we'll all get through this!! Today is the cut off date for the second wave. I hope I can make it and have my score next week. I dont wanna think about this again and again until June. URGHH
Thanks JPerkins11! - I I am also using Becker as well. However I haven't tackles the "optional questions" at the end of each chapter. Did you go through all of those questions when you were studying? Also, did any of the Becker sims help you out on the sims you did know??
Was this your first exam? I feel like I only got 3 out of the 7 sims correct too, but I only know for sure that I got the research one right. I think I did pretty well in the MCQs because I marked very few for review, but my testlets did not seem to get any harder. I console myself with thinking that I knew the material very well, hence why I didn't see the testlets get any harder.
I took REG last quarter and I was also certain that I failed but I ended up with a score >80. The sims, however, were relatively easy compared to the FAR sims. I hope that I passed FAR with a 75.
Good luck to you. We should find out our scores next week.
Hey everyone. I'm taking FAR (my very first section) tomorrow and I'm FREAKING OUT! I've kind of accepted the fact that I'm going to fail, which I know is a terrible attitude to take going into a test but my confidence has been completely shattered. I'm using Becker and devoting a LOT of time into it every week. During my last 2 weeks of review, I took a bunch of progress tests and I nailed them all, at least 85% or higher on everyone. Then the final week of prep comes and I take both of the practice final exams and I average around 70% on the MCQs and 80% on the sims. Now I feel like my brain is on complete overload and won't retain anymore information. Wish me luck tomorrow, I'm certainly going to need it.
Here's what I'm wondering: Now that I'm seriously considering that I'm going to fail tomorrow, when should I retake FAR? I'm currently enrolled in Becker right now and this is the first section I'm taking. I'm scheduled to take AUD in July, REG in August and finish with BEC by October. But if I wait until October to retake FAR, I know I'll forget everything I've been studying the past 2 months. Should I retake FAR in the next testing window? Will Becker even allow me to do that and reschedule the rest of the sections? Help!
awinans - I'm taking FAR tomorrow too except I am not as prepared as you are. I have totally accepted that there is no way I can pass this exam because I didn't even get through all the materials and even got a chance to review. I'm just simply doing the practice exams and retaining any information I can. Unfortunately, I ran out of time and I couldn't extend this exam any further since this is the 4th exam that I paid for...I'm extremely disappointed in myself. I feel like giving up already but I know I shouldn't. I honestly don't know how you guys keep up the focus and do it. If you already scheduled to take the other parts you should just focus your time on taking those parts. It sucks that it will take a long time to get the results so you shouldn't take FAR in July. I know it's fresh in your mind but that's just the way it is. Don't worry you will refresh your memory later. I am also using Becker except I have already taken the classes and now just reviewing the materials over.
Becker's final exams are intended to be harder than the actual exam. I recently was taught by one of the Becker national instructors and he said it's like soccer practice. Soccor practice is MUCH harder than playing the actual game. I think you have done an excellent job preparing yourself. I haven't taken this section yet (I actually sit this Saturday), but the scores you are getting in your Becker materials are like the scores I got when I did the Audit section in Becker, and I felt the same way you did. I passed with an 83. So keep your head up, stay confident, keep reviewing notes tonight, get some good rest, and you will do pass!!
@ Awinans - first, I am sure you will do fine because getting a 70 or 80 in the practice test is a good thing. Believe me - the weekend before I took REG, I got 3 65s on practice tests and was freaking out.
I respectfully disagree with anyone who says you should move on and take the other parts. I think you should move forward with Audit and for Audit only, put FAR behind you. But reschedule the others if you end up failing, and go back to FAR. I agree that you will forget a lot of what you learned and you'll have to start over. You will HAVE to come back to FAR if you fail - it makes more sense if you do not move on yet.
However, I'm sure others disagree with me and what works for some, doesn't work for others.
Took FAR today. MC Testlet 1 was very easy, 2 and 3 were hard (but not crazy). Took me probably 2 hours 30 minutes to do the MCs.
The Sims were actually very reasonable, pretty much the same level as Becker. (The Research question was actually difficult.) Certainly recommend using the research tab to check your Sims if have the time.
Overall, I think it went ok but much tougher than Business.
I agree with Mrs. 300. Don't move on to FAR yet. You are spreading yourself thin. There is a reason why these tests are separated and we can schedule them the way we want. Better to focus on one.
@awinans: You're def. prepared and I'm sure you'll pass it! If you don't (I really think you will), don't move on to the next section. I would suggest finishing FAR before moving on. However, you'll have to wait almost a month for score release, right? I don't think you should just "waste' a month of precious study time...you could start studying for smaller section like AUD or BEC. They have only 6 chapters unlike FAR which has 10. You could take AUD or BEC beg. of July and take FAR end of July or beg. of Aug.
I understand you're doing live course, but it can't hurt to start studying early. I started out with live class, but ended up doing self study b/c live class didn't add much value. I failed couple sections and it seemed better to study on my own schedule.
@khanhktruong29: I hope it went well for you!! FAR is the most curved exam, so you never know what score you could end up with:!)
Is it really the most curved??? If so...I may have a chance lol.
From what I've read on this site, it is:!) There's a thread titled "which exam is the most curved?" Responses pointed toward FAR being the most curved while REG was the least curved.
I'm really hope it holds true!
I have "heard" that you need the least amount of points on FAR to earn a 75. And that you need the most for Audit. This could totally be BS and someone taking the Northern Illinois University course said that her instructor said that. Like I said, this is TOTAL hearsay. But to me it makes sense, I was SURE I passed Audit the 2nd time in the 80s and got a 76. And for FAR, I was convinced I got a 50.
If this helps anyone,
for the becker practice final exam 1, I had 83, 83, 90 on the MCQ, and exam 2 I had 86, 67, 86.
for the sims exam 1: 87, 100, 100, 100, 64, 87, 0. Exam 2: 67, 100, 50, 100, 72, 93, 0.
This was the first CPA test I studied for, and I was extra paranoid so I put in a lot of time, and really tried to understand all the topics. I ended up with a 96 on the actual exam.
Thanks for the support everybody! Took the exam yesterday and I have NO CLUE how I did. The first multiple choice section seemed pretty easy. Everything was pretty basic. So I assumed I did fairly well and that the 2nd section would seem a lot harder but it didn't. In fact all 3 sections seemed about the same (which really freaks me out). But I'm sure that I got a few questions wrong on the first section on this one certain topic because that same topic kept coming up over and over again.
When I was taking my practice tests with Becker, I always did really well on the sims. Only need an hour or less. So when I read other people's experiences with the FAR and how they needed at least 90 minutes I was a little confused. But luckily I followed that advice because I really needed all the time I could get. None of the concepts on the sims were that difficult, it was the sheer length of them. Each sim required TONS of reading so it took me forever just to figure out what it was they were asking me to do. And then that stupid research question....I normally KILL the research questions! But I'm honestly not sure I got it right.
So is it true that we will get our scores around June 8th? And how do we receive them? Mail? Email?
If I don't pass FAR, I think I'm going to consider taking it again soon. I'm scheduled to take Audit on July 3rd so I'm going to go ahead and start studying for that next week. So maybe I'll being FAR again after I take Audit. The thing is that I'm on a set Becker schedule. I'm doing the online version. Can I just switch my schedule around like that?
@awinans: I'm pretty sure you passed. As far as the testlets difficulty goes, it's really subjective...what seems harder to others may seem easier to you if you are prepared. So I wouldn't worry about that:)
I don't think you'l need to reschedule your Becker schedule again, BUT I know you're able to do it one time for free! Good Luck!
Took FAR this morning. Overall, a much better experience than the one in January. I felt like I nailed the 1st testlet. The second testlet was pretty brutal. I had to make a LOT of educated guesses. :( 3rd testlet, I felt like I did well again, but the questions were back to basic which really bums me out.
The SIMS were OK - NOTHING compared to the nightmare SIMS I faced in January! But I was much, MUCH better prepared. It took me less than 5 minutes to find the research and that NEVER happens to me. So it was nice that I had extra time to go over my SIMS. I allowed 90 minutes and I felt like that was the perfect amount of time.
One suggestion - READ the SIMS all the way through to the nitty gritty detail. I found mistakes I made from misreading them the first time! If anything was rough on the SIMS, it was the paragraphs I had to read through to figure out what they finally wanted me to do!
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