Help !! Failed AUD 4th time with a 67

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Help !! Failed AUD 4th time with a 67

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Started 1 year ago by Anushka730
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Please help as to how to study AUD, i just don't know where I go wrong. 1st attempt used Yaegar,2nd and 3rd attempt supplemented with Gleim MCQ cd, 4th attempt used Lambers. Prof Garland was really good at explaining but something is lacking in my effort and just can't seem to figure out where.

Should I use a new review course like Rogers/Becker or supplement what I already have with Gleim MCQ and Becker flashcards.

It would help if someone could share what has helped them clear this exam.I would lose REG credit if I am not able to pass in April/May.

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Posted 1 year ago #
herbert7890

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I recommend Becker for AUD. If you decide on Becker, please do yourself a favor and buy the flashcards for AUD, you will thank me later. With Becker you should be able to find those "aha" moments often, as each topic is explained in a logical way and then you reinforce the material with the flashcards and mcqs.

FAR 88 - BEC 86 - AUD 90 - REG 85 - I'm DONE!!!!
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Posted 1 year ago #
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Anushka730- I just found out I failed audit for the third time. I have decided to completely change my studying materials bc the Becker book and gleim software has not worked for me. I don't know if I should get the full Becker including mc and flashcards, or try something new like Yaeger?

Posted 1 year ago #
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I've had good luck with Roger. It seems like he focuses on what you need to pass!

BEC - 83 (10/22/10)
REG - 87 (11/30/10)
AUD - 76 (02/26/11)
FAR - 79 (04/26/11)

Posted 1 year ago #
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The bigger question is how exactly are you working your MCQ, and what methods are you using to memorize the key parts that you have to spew out over and over again on audit?

Are you using mnemonics to memorize the audit standards, elements of internal control, and the control environment? Do you have the standard audit report memorized, and do you know when and how it gets either altered and/or qualified? Do you understand the differences between the types of tests (substantive, etc) and when they are used?

How are you scoring when you do your MCQ? When I studied audit I had exactly one week to study due to thinking I had a month left on my NTS but really only had 1 week when I went to schedule. Because of this I concentrated heavily on using mnemonics to memorize the things I mentioned above. I didn't have time for subtleties so I concentrated on rote memorization of the basic concepts- then when I got into the test I wrote down all my mnemonics after the test started and I seriously referred to them on about 75% of my questions.

I did about every 3rd question MCQ in my WIley book and only did more questions when I got one in a certain area wrong. Then I would concentrate on figuring out *why* I got it wrong, why the right answer was right, and I'd do all the rest of the questions in that area to confirm my understanding of that topic.

I used an older Gleim book to supplement my new WIley book, adn some old Gleim audios to review areas I didn't have time to study enough.

They key to passing is to understand why you're getting the questions wrong that you are getting wrong and correcting the knowledge in your head. Then go back and review the areas where you had problems to make sure the "corrected" knowledge is sticking.

AUD - 92
FAR - 73, 82
REG - 72, 82
BEC - 84 DONE!!!!!! :)

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Thanks guys for the reply.

herbert7890 - After, reading one of your post , I thought maybe I should get Becker flashcards only, not sure if I should buy the Becker study material for AUD. Since, as you can see I have already used Yaegar lectures, where Prof Gary explained good , but could not retain the material. Thereafter tried Lambers when I gave it in Feb 2011, where Prof Lambers was good as well, but then again I believe its me ,and I am not doing something right.

Bubunia -Sorry, to hear that you could not pass, but I think we should keep trying and hope for the best. About, Yaegar, they have helped me clear the other 3 parts but for this one, it has not worked for me.

wantmylifeback- I have heard Roger is good and infact, I was going to use it but then did not, now I am not sure whether I need lectures or practice more MCQ's .

Spectrum - I know what you are saying is true, but at this point I do not know where to begin or what to work with, losing confidence in myself as far as AUD is concerned. thanks for taking the time to explain so much. I fail to understand now, how one can get a score of 90 and more in AUD, whereas I am struggling to get a 75. I did not work with any mnemonics, thinking that I knew the material, but now I will have to try that approach. I did have the Wiely 2011 book and Lambers sotware ,which I did not work with as much. Did you use Wiley book and Gleim book only? Or did you also do the Gleim cd of addnl MCQ?

Posted 1 year ago #
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I used the Gleim book mainly to clarify things that were not covered well in the WIley book (ie. if there was a topic I was getting wrong and couldn't find good explanation in Wiley test, I would look at Gleim for that area). I truly feel the mnemonics were key for me passing and doing so well. A good deal of auditing is internal control, audit standards and the standard audit report. With the mnemonics I had all the elements there to look at on my notes sheet after I wrote them down. So I could say (for example, can't remember actual material at this point), "All right, they are asking which of the elements of internal control applies to this particular action, three of the answers are choices from this particular mnemonic list I wrote down, and the 4th is some random "attractor" item that I know is a garbage made-up word, this applies, this one doesn't fit, this other one doesn't fit, Answer is A."

Having all those categories and sub-categories memorized allowed me to narrow down to one answer pretty much all the time.... all I had to know what what the mnemonics stood for (and of course know the difference between the words they stood for) and then all I had to do was classify the answers. There's no WAY I would have passed otherwise with that little studying.

AUD - 92
FAR - 73, 82
REG - 72, 82
BEC - 84 DONE!!!!!! :)

Posted 1 year ago #
Anushka730

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thanks for your suggestions. About the mnemonics, did you create your own from what you understood from the books or otherwise.

Posted 1 year ago #
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Anushka730

AUD is very easy to study and very difficult to pass!

The best courses for AUD are Becker and Lambers. However, those courses only took me so far. I had to do 3,000 questions to pass!

If I were you, I would order Becker for AUD. Becker and Becker's flashcards will give you the mneumonics that you need to memorize.

Next, you have four very valuable AICPA reports for failed AUD exams. Use them! Write down your individual scores for the different sections. If you do not know how to use Gleim to work on your weak areas, give Gleim a call. I was able to make my weak areas my strongest areas using this approach.

You are correct. I think that Yaeger is the best course for BEC, REG and FAR, but not AUD.

Posted 1 year ago #
Anushka730

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Passed - thanks

I haven't ordered Becker for any of the courses, so will see how to go about it, it should be expensive. I have already spent on my examination fees for taking the test 4 times now and the other material that I have. Its very difficult to stay positive at this point. At times feel like giving up, but will try this time and hope for the best.

Posted 1 year ago #
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Anushka730

Keep your chin up. No one will ask or care how many times you took AUD once you have your CPA.

Posted 1 year ago #
Anushka730

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Passed - Thanks for your kind words of encouragement.

Posted 1 year ago #
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Anushka-

You're not the only one struggling with audit. I took Audit in February for the third time and once again I received a failing score... a lovely 67!!!

I've been using Roger, paid $50 for the online free repeat since I did the class the first time around. His lectures are good, but oftentimes I don't think he goes in great detail. I'm at a lost myself as to what to do... do I buy another course like Yaeger? Do more questions? I went through a ton of MCQ this past time, reviewed the reports, all the mnemonics and still didn't pass. I even felt good leaving the exam.

So I feel your pain.... my dilemma is I'm due to take FAR next, since my NTS expires May 21st. UGH!!!

Anyhow, just wanted to give you my thoughts on Roger... I was considering getting a CRAM course with Yaeger, hoping that gets me over a 75. I also considered getting Becker's flashcards.

Posted 1 year ago #
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CPSU75

I used Roger, Becker, Yaeger, Bisk Hot Spots, Lambers and Gleim for AUD. I passed FAR, REG and
BEC with Yaeger on the first try, but I had to take AUD twice. Of all the review courses that I used, I consider Becker and Lambers the best courses for AUD. After I failed AUD with a 74, I used Gleim Online to work on my weak areas.

I used both Yaeger and Becker for FAR. Both are good courses. However, I consider Yaeger better than Becker because Dr. Yaeger and Cindy are better at explaining how to work difficult problems. I really got tired of Becker's Power Point presentation and "underline this, highlight that, etc."

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Anushka730

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CPSU75 - thanks for sharing your thoughts about Roger, I am thinking between Roger and Becker. Becker is expensive. So still trying to decide. Or maybe will get Gleim.which I have yet to see, since the cd for Mcq does not have simulations.

About Yaegar it has not helped me with AUD. They have helped me with the other 3 parts though.

Goodluck to you as well.

Posted 1 year ago #
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Thanks PASSED for your recommendations. I was thinking I needed another review course. Roger doesn't seem to be cutting it for me, will definitely look into Lambers. I have the Wiley software as well, but I really think it's just about putting enough time into studying and reviewing. My job requires a lot of overtime.... almost year around. I am trying to squeeze in two hours after work, one hr before work and one hr during lunch.... But I think I might need to do more. EKKK!!!

Shoot me!! I'm loosing hope!

Posted 1 year ago #
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Anytime Anushka 730! I hope we both pass the next time around :) Crossing my fingers for us!!!

If you are intersted in Roger, I believe you can email them at staff@rogercpareview.com and they should be able to give you a sample of their course, otherwise check out their website. I've heard great things about Yaeger, but good to know it's not good for Audit. My coworker just passed his last part using Yaeger.

You might consider the Roger CRAM courses, if you have other study materials. I've heard good things about his CRAM courses, but I haven't actually tried it.

GOOD LUCK!!!

Posted 1 year ago #
Anushka730

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thanks, was considering the Roger cram course maybe.

I have tried Lambers and Prof Granger is really good at explaining the material although the updates were ok, and were not explained by him. I think I did not practice enough and did not memorise thoroughly.

Posted 1 year ago #
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aushka pls dont waste yr money on becker.............its too expensive.............u r better off buying gleim (274usd) complete aud package and supplementing with roger lectures which tie it all up.................yaeger sucks for audit and explains the key concepts really well but omits the little details that add up to pass comfortably................im only into study unit 3 of gleim and it covers the curriculum very well and there was so much gary didnt even cover..............it sucks!!

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thanks elsie for your suggestion. I know Becker is quite expensive, also the fact that it might be good for some and not work for the others. Although, at this point do not want to take a chance, since will suffer anyways later.

Gleim package, along with Roger cram course should help I think. Will need to get something now so can take the exam around early May 2011

Posted 1 year ago #
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anushka i hear becker lectures off reading from powerpoints and is not worth the cost..............check out roger demos and see and a lso demos for gleim and u can then compare to yaeger and will see the difference................. i seriously think u will pass if u use roger and gleim as i hear its a killer combo for aud

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Anushka730

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Thank you elsie. I just hope it works .

Posted 1 year ago #
MM23

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your right about Becker lectures, it just has Tim Gearty telling you what to highlight, star, and underline in the book. the book it self and software are top-notch though.

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