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March 22, 2014 at 2:41 am #184555TobeCPA81Participant
I am newbie here .. I am considering Roger or Becker .
It’s been quite a few years since I graduated (international)..just need some advice on what should I go with ?
PS : not working but have 2 little kids .
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March 22, 2014 at 2:59 am #539827AnonymousInactiveMarch 22, 2014 at 2:59 am #539855AnonymousInactiveMarch 22, 2014 at 3:06 am #539829
jeffKeymasterMarch 22, 2014 at 3:06 am #539856jeffKeymasterMarch 22, 2014 at 8:28 pm #539831JDMemberI agree with dmead above; its more about the score you want and how much time you're willing to dedicate to it. I found that when I didn't study, I scored in the 60's. When I study around 100 hours, I get just over passing. I'm convinced that scoring in the 90's would require at least 50% more study time.
Having said that, I use Becker, and I think it was a great investment. I can't speak for other reviews, but Beckers software is very user friendly and as long as you do all the questions, I think candidates do okay. Work the problems though – don't just reflexively answer them.
Good luck!
AUD - 80 - 105 hrs review
REG - 79 - 123 hrs review
BEC - 81 - 126 hrs review
FAR - 68 -180 hrs review, Round 2 - 18JUL(?) - ___ hrs reviewMarch 22, 2014 at 8:28 pm #539858JDMemberI agree with dmead above; its more about the score you want and how much time you're willing to dedicate to it. I found that when I didn't study, I scored in the 60's. When I study around 100 hours, I get just over passing. I'm convinced that scoring in the 90's would require at least 50% more study time.
Having said that, I use Becker, and I think it was a great investment. I can't speak for other reviews, but Beckers software is very user friendly and as long as you do all the questions, I think candidates do okay. Work the problems though – don't just reflexively answer them.
Good luck!
AUD - 80 - 105 hrs review
REG - 79 - 123 hrs review
BEC - 81 - 126 hrs review
FAR - 68 -180 hrs review, Round 2 - 18JUL(?) - ___ hrs reviewMarch 22, 2014 at 8:32 pm #539833jes7879MemberI use CPAExcel – I purchased it b/c it's a lot less than Becker and had good reviews. The test bank I think is pretty good – along with NINJA notes I passed AUD so far.
AUD - passed
BEC - retake in JulyMarch 22, 2014 at 8:32 pm #539860jes7879MemberI use CPAExcel – I purchased it b/c it's a lot less than Becker and had good reviews. The test bank I think is pretty good – along with NINJA notes I passed AUD so far.
AUD - passed
BEC - retake in JulyMarch 23, 2014 at 2:11 am #539835TobeCPA81ParticipantThanks everyone . I totally agree with u dmead. And I will definitely look at CPA Excel, which I didn't consider as of now .
So I read this review somewhere about Roger that if English is your second language then u might want to think about Roger again . Is that CORRECT?
March 23, 2014 at 2:11 am #539862TobeCPA81ParticipantThanks everyone . I totally agree with u dmead. And I will definitely look at CPA Excel, which I didn't consider as of now .
So I read this review somewhere about Roger that if English is your second language then u might want to think about Roger again . Is that CORRECT?
March 23, 2014 at 1:44 pm #539838AnonymousInactiveEnglish isn't my 2nd language, but from having talked to many students for whom it is, here's my thoughts about any review course with English is your 2nd language: Determine whether you will be able to learn it better via print or audio (personally, when I've learned other languages, I can read them way better than I can understand them being spoken, so I would expect I would want a book to study from; however, I have known many students who are very much the opposite and would far rather listen than read in their 2nd language), and then carefully look at whatever samples are available to you to determine what you will learn best from.
For example, Roger and Becker have very different styles of speech, so perhaps the review that you read was reflective of the fact that the Becker accent was easier for that individual to understand. I would anticipate that this depends a lot on what accent of English you have been around the most. It seems like I have heard that Yaeger has a very northeast accent, so for example, if your experience with English was in the New York-type accent, then Yaeger might be the easiest for you to understand. If I remember correctly, Roger has a more laid-back, borderline-Southern accent, so someone who is more accustomed to this (say if they'd been around Texans or even Australians [though my Aussie friends would kill me for comparing their accent to that of Texas 😉 ]) would like Roger but have a hard time with Yaeger, etc. I would also look at samples of the books to see which ones use terminology that is most understandable for you. Whichever mode of learning you think will be best for you (books vs audio vs video etc.) is the one that I would give the most weight when making my decision. (Say you love Becker's books but Roger's voice; if you're going to be relying primarily on the videos, then I'd say go with Roger, but if primarily on the books, then Becker, even though you will likely use both either way.)
I don't think that Roger is inherently better or worse for someone who speaks English as a 2nd language, but rather that English has such a wide variety of accents and terminology between different areas that anyone who has learned English as a 2nd language has ended up learning one form of English. If us English speaking people would just start talking the same, it'd be much easier on those who are trying to learn English!!
March 23, 2014 at 1:44 pm #539866AnonymousInactiveEnglish isn't my 2nd language, but from having talked to many students for whom it is, here's my thoughts about any review course with English is your 2nd language: Determine whether you will be able to learn it better via print or audio (personally, when I've learned other languages, I can read them way better than I can understand them being spoken, so I would expect I would want a book to study from; however, I have known many students who are very much the opposite and would far rather listen than read in their 2nd language), and then carefully look at whatever samples are available to you to determine what you will learn best from.
For example, Roger and Becker have very different styles of speech, so perhaps the review that you read was reflective of the fact that the Becker accent was easier for that individual to understand. I would anticipate that this depends a lot on what accent of English you have been around the most. It seems like I have heard that Yaeger has a very northeast accent, so for example, if your experience with English was in the New York-type accent, then Yaeger might be the easiest for you to understand. If I remember correctly, Roger has a more laid-back, borderline-Southern accent, so someone who is more accustomed to this (say if they'd been around Texans or even Australians [though my Aussie friends would kill me for comparing their accent to that of Texas 😉 ]) would like Roger but have a hard time with Yaeger, etc. I would also look at samples of the books to see which ones use terminology that is most understandable for you. Whichever mode of learning you think will be best for you (books vs audio vs video etc.) is the one that I would give the most weight when making my decision. (Say you love Becker's books but Roger's voice; if you're going to be relying primarily on the videos, then I'd say go with Roger, but if primarily on the books, then Becker, even though you will likely use both either way.)
I don't think that Roger is inherently better or worse for someone who speaks English as a 2nd language, but rather that English has such a wide variety of accents and terminology between different areas that anyone who has learned English as a 2nd language has ended up learning one form of English. If us English speaking people would just start talking the same, it'd be much easier on those who are trying to learn English!!
March 23, 2014 at 3:41 pm #539840John TuckerMemberYes, all of the major CPA Review courses are efficient, you know your CPA Excels, Beckers, Yaegers, Rogers, and Gleims of the world. What it comes down to is your study PLAN, how much time you put into your PLAN, and if you did a routine practice testing/quizzing to CONFIRM you were passing the practice routines at least 85% before you actually sat for the exam.
Most people that keep failing the exams are doing so because, quite honestly, they just have piss poor preparation procedures. The CPA Exam is not a college exam, you can't do piss poor preparation for this and still pass lol.
* State of MA CPA Exam Candidate
- BEC: Sunday, August 24th
- FAR: Saturday, November 29th
- AUD: TBA for February 2015
- REG: TBA for May 2015March 23, 2014 at 3:41 pm #539868John TuckerMemberYes, all of the major CPA Review courses are efficient, you know your CPA Excels, Beckers, Yaegers, Rogers, and Gleims of the world. What it comes down to is your study PLAN, how much time you put into your PLAN, and if you did a routine practice testing/quizzing to CONFIRM you were passing the practice routines at least 85% before you actually sat for the exam.
Most people that keep failing the exams are doing so because, quite honestly, they just have piss poor preparation procedures. The CPA Exam is not a college exam, you can't do piss poor preparation for this and still pass lol.
* State of MA CPA Exam Candidate
- BEC: Sunday, August 24th
- FAR: Saturday, November 29th
- AUD: TBA for February 2015
- REG: TBA for May 2015 -
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