Is it a guarantee that if you think you did well you failed and vice versa?

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  • #193927
    Tcohle
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    I took my first FAR test today and felt indifferent, maybe my last testlet being harder. Sims were tough but manageable. I thought I did well enough to pass; not amazing. Flagged maybe 4 per testlet and made good guesses on them.

    I’ve read that people who think they failed actually passed and those who thought they passed actually failed. So now I’m terrified.

    Is this 100% true or is it just a small sample size. Meaning only the people who have that happen to them respond?

    AUD - 84
    BEC - 75
    FAR - 76
    REG - 87
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    FAR- 5/11/15 76!!
    AUD-10/31/15 63, 84!
    REG-7/12/16 72
    BEC-8/31/15 75!! Perfect Score!

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  • #666166
    Anonymous
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    Congrats on taking your first! Sounds like you had the typical experience I did. I flagged a handful or less on the first 2 testlets and maybe 8-12 on the third testlet because the difficulty definitely gets cranked up. The sims I felt I got roughly 70-75%. This experience was repeated on all my exams except for BEC, which surprisingly did not get tougher. I passed them with pretty good margins to spare so I'm sure you did great. In any case, worrying about it when there's nothing you can do to change the score is futile. Just relax and be proud of your performance!

    #666167
    Tcohle
    Participant

    I'm an over thinker :). I thought leaving the exam that I did well enough to pass. Good on MCQ. Knew what I was doing on most sims. Then I see on here people who think that way fail hahaha

    AUD - 84
    BEC - 75
    FAR - 76
    REG - 87
    Ninja Notes/MCQ/Book/Audio for all

    FAR- 5/11/15 76!!
    AUD-10/31/15 63, 84!
    REG-7/12/16 72
    BEC-8/31/15 75!! Perfect Score!

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    Ninja 10 pt combo for FAR/AUD/BEC

    #666168
    MaLoTu
    Participant

    I think that is just superstition.

    Personally, I would rather think I failed and find out I passed then to think I passed and find out I failed.

    I was pretty sure I didnt pass FAR when I took it and I didnt … however I wasn't surprised when I got the result. I thought I did good on AUD and passed, but I didn't and I was pretty crushed the whole day.

    Almost always from my phone... please excuse my typos!

    All 4 passed - 2016

    CA CPA

    #666169
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I actually think there is some reasoning behind that feeling that if you thought you did well, you may end up not passing. And if you thought you failed you do pass.

    Here's why: As we all know, there are 3 testlets which are adaptive. You start with a testlet on medium difficulty and if you do well, you go to a Hard one. If you do poorly, you stay on Medium. Because of this a lot of people are actually feel like they're doing terrible because the tests moved to Hard and they are struggling with more complicated and complex questions. Meanwhile people who stayed on Medium don't think their tests are all that bad but that's because the questions are much more straightforward and “easy” (compared to Hard).

    And it seems that the AICPA uses a strange, statistics based, grading metric for the exam. Not every question is worth the same amount of points. In fact, questions are worth two separate amount of points. You add one set of points for getting a question right but subtract a different set of points for missing a question. It seems to be that if you get a Medium question correct, that is not weighed very heavily. But if you miss a Medium question, you are penalized more heavily for it. Hard questions are reversed. You get a Hard question correct and it's weighted very heavily in your favor. Miss one and it doesn't count against you as much.

    So there is a logical explanation for why people who thought they did well end up failing and why people who thought they failed end up passing.

    #666170
    Tcohle
    Participant

    Crap then I don't know if I passed :(. There were some tough questions but I thought I handled them well and didn't think I got many wrong in the first two testlets. Maybe 10 or so total

    AUD - 84
    BEC - 75
    FAR - 76
    REG - 87
    Ninja Notes/MCQ/Book/Audio for all

    FAR- 5/11/15 76!!
    AUD-10/31/15 63, 84!
    REG-7/12/16 72
    BEC-8/31/15 75!! Perfect Score!

    Wiley CPAExcel Platinum
    Ninja 10 pt combo for FAR/AUD/BEC

    #666171
    golfball7773
    Participant

    You need to stop thinking about it and nothing is 100 percent guarantee đŸ™‚ Sorry for the bluntness

    AUD - NINJA in Training
    BEC - 86
    FAR - NINJA in Training
    REG - NINJA in Training
    AUD - 71, 73

    BEC - 74, 86

    REG - 77*

    FAR - 57

    *expired

    (I have been trying to become a CPA since 2013). only one test down.......

    FAR: 63, 55, 62
    REG: 65, 77*
    AUD: Fail, 64, 71
    BEC: 72, 74, 81

    *expired

    #666172
    Tcohle
    Participant

    Yeah you're probably right. I overthink things sometimes and worry myself to death lol

    AUD - 84
    BEC - 75
    FAR - 76
    REG - 87
    Ninja Notes/MCQ/Book/Audio for all

    FAR- 5/11/15 76!!
    AUD-10/31/15 63, 84!
    REG-7/12/16 72
    BEC-8/31/15 75!! Perfect Score!

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    Ninja 10 pt combo for FAR/AUD/BEC

    #666173
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Yeah, even with everything I said above, I'd agree that you're over thinking it right now đŸ˜‰

    It was your first exam and it was FAR. It's normal to have no clue how you did and over analyze things to death. But honestly, you're best move is to start studying your next section.

    #666174
    Tcohle
    Participant

    Thanks…just gotta take my mind off it and start AUD in the next few days.

    AUD - 84
    BEC - 75
    FAR - 76
    REG - 87
    Ninja Notes/MCQ/Book/Audio for all

    FAR- 5/11/15 76!!
    AUD-10/31/15 63, 84!
    REG-7/12/16 72
    BEC-8/31/15 75!! Perfect Score!

    Wiley CPAExcel Platinum
    Ninja 10 pt combo for FAR/AUD/BEC

    #666175
    Tncincy
    Participant

    Just wait for the scores….in the mean time go to the next section. You have to pass them all anyway, so why wait.

    It begins with a 75
    Been here too long as a cheerleader.....time to pass

    It begins with a 75
    Been here too long as a cheerleader....ready to pass

    #666176
    hpj154
    Member

    I left my first attempt (AUD) feeling the same way–more indifferent than anything. I told friends and family “I think I did good enough to pass.” There weren't any MCQ's that I couldn't narrow down to 2 possible answers and while I didn't feel like I nailed the SIMS, I was able to justify my answers. Sounds like you were prepared for the test and did a great job. Good luck!

    AUD (Q2 2015) - 93
    FAR (Q2 2015) - 85
    REG (Q3 2015) - 80
    BEC (Q3 2015) - 82

    #666177
    Tcohle
    Participant

    @hpj –>You're describing 100% how I felt

    AUD - 84
    BEC - 75
    FAR - 76
    REG - 87
    Ninja Notes/MCQ/Book/Audio for all

    FAR- 5/11/15 76!!
    AUD-10/31/15 63, 84!
    REG-7/12/16 72
    BEC-8/31/15 75!! Perfect Score!

    Wiley CPAExcel Platinum
    Ninja 10 pt combo for FAR/AUD/BEC

    #666178
    okcpa2015
    Participant

    @Tcohle, sounds like you gave yourself a chance, which is all you can do.

    Suggestion, take a day or two off then start right up with AUD. Use those good study habits you have from FAR and rock n' roll over to the next exam.

    We're getting things done in the AUD Study Group forum if you want to jump in! Good Luck!

    FAR - 91
    REG - 88
    AUD - 98
    BEC - 88

    #666179
    Determined CPA
    Participant

    Every time I walked out of the testing center thinking I passed, I did. And when I failed, I remember feeling like ‘I guess there's always a chance, but I dont think I did enough to pass'. Sounds like you did great! Keep us posted.

    A - 75
    B - 78 God is good.
    F - 77 Answered prayers.
    R - 84! Done!!

    Paperwork sent - waiting for license!!
    Still on a cloud and in shock. Through God, all things will happen.

    #666180
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    There are no certainties unless you walk into the exam completely unprepared and are literally guessing at every question.

    It has varied for me. FAR was my first exam, and I was expecting it to be absolutely horrible, based on what I had read about it here and had heard about it from friends. But I came away thinking it wasn't that bad. I could tell the MCQs were getting harder, but I never felt like I had lost control of the exam. Another key point for me was that I knew I had done well on the Sims. I do financial accounting and reporting for a living, so journal entries and revenue recognition are second nature to me, and my Sims were all in my wheelhouse. I think when you do well on the Sims, it makes you think you did well overall because the Sims seem to be what people freak out about the most. I didn't know what to expect, score-wise, because it was my first exam, but I was not surprised to get an 88. That was commensurate with how I felt I had performed.

    I came away from REG feeling like I had taken the wrong exam. I was sure I had failed because the MCQs seemed more and more impossible as I moved through the testlets. And what I came to learn, from reading other people's experiences here, was that when you feel like you are getting screwed on the MCQs, it's likely because you are doing really well, so you are getting more difficult questions. I also had a couple Sims that were very difficult, and that had me worried. But I did very well on REG, despite thinking I failed.

    On AUD, I felt prepared going in, and I did not feel like the exam was overly difficult (in large part because AUD is so conceptual, and theory questions don't seem that difficult, in general), but I bombed the MCQs (according to my score report). The only reason I passed was because I crushed the Sims. Yet I felt much better about AUD than I did REG. I would imagine what happened with AUD was that I did poorly on the first set of MCQ and kept getting easier questions, which are not worth as many points. So even if I did get a lot of them correct, it doesn't make up for not getting the higher point values associated with the difficult questions.

    On BEC, my feelings were very much like they were with FAR. I knew the questions were getting more difficult as I progressed through the exam, but I had a solid grasp of the material, so I was feeling like I did well on the exam, and sure enough, I did. I was never SURE that I passed because this whole thing is so convoluted, but I was not so perplexed by the questions that I felt like failure was a reasonable possibility. As with FAR, my score of 89 seemed to fit with how I felt I had performed.

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