Low Stress Living w/ Medical Issues

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    Anonymous
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    Without disclosing too much personal information and diagnoses, I have been suffering with medical issues for the last 14 years of my life. I am 28. At this point in time my medical issues have grown with me and caused tremendous grief, pain and regret.

    I managed to get through a MAC program and am now a CPA candidate. This was accomplished while running at a fraction of my mental capacity. I am committed to the Becker course and have every intention of becoming a CPA within the next 18 months. I have already completed the work requirement.

    I have seen the migraine thread but decided to create a new post because I feel my issues extend much further than chronic daily migraine. I would like to discuss with my peers in similar situations how they are handling the challenges of working as an accountant and working toward the CPA certification.

    What options are you considering for a low stress career? How do you handle/explain the job instability due to your medical issues? What is the best way to discuss your issues with a potential employer/client? Is this an industry that just does not care? Or, do these issues extend far beyond the industry?

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  • #586205
    fuzyfro89
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    I'd say just go for job(s) that have low variability in hours/intensity. I think some accountant positions in industry should be somewhat laid back (of course, there are some that are very grueling as well), so you just have to search carefully.

    I don't really know how else to help.

    Best wishes.

    #586206
    ridiqls
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    I'm in the same situation. Which is why jobs that you can set your own hours appeal to me because of the flexibility. Not even the hours but the stress and the ability to manage when I work due to issues I deal with are big.

    Some options: Get tax experience (I've seen part time gigs too but most likely will have to do a few years full time at a tax firm. but you can work maybe for a small firm that's local) and start up your own practice. Do tax and book keeping and keep it low key. But if running your own hours and business is stress for you then probably not this route.

    Government is also a good gig for people with health issues that need to be juggled. Good insurance, low stress, routine and set schedules, procedures, etc.

    Full charge book keeping. Not a CPA job, salary caps probably at high 50k. But having a CPA probably puts you at the top of the list to get these jobs.

    Book keeping business.

    any of these routes, you're going to need work experience to get that CPA licensure so you might as well go the tax/bookkeeping firm route and open up your shop.

    #586207
    Anonymous
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    From what I have gathered, government and non-profit accounting is generally the most laid-back as far as schedule, stress, and demands, so I would think seriously about those options.

    Also try to be honest with yourself about how much this will affect your work and how much your boss can afford to have that much employee time affected. If it could potentially make you miss a week without notice, especially during the most busy/stressful times of the year, then a 2-person accounting firm is *not* the place to be since 50% of the workforce is gone if you're gone. (I started in a 2-person firm, and the pressure to be there was a little high because I knew that me being gone meant we got 1/2 as much work done!) In my current work situation, I'm in private accounting and have 5 coworkers in my department, so you'd think that something which caused occasional unanticipated missing wouldn't be as big of a deal…but we also have a 3-day super-intense block of time each month during which any missing is very damaging to the team as a whole. We each have a single backup and if we missed during that time, our backup would basically have to put in our 12-hour days as well as their own (though honestly their backup would help them etc. so it wouldn't be 24-hour work days, but they'd definitely have to add a lot of hours). So, not a great situation for someone who honestly thinks they may end up out for a day or two during the highest stress time.

    However, if the more likely option is that you might have to work different hours but you could still work, then you'd be OK in the above situations, but wouldn't be as good with something that required a lot of appointments or availability to clients during certain hours. In my current job, if I needed to work 7pm-7am for some reason, honestly, it wouldn't mess up much of anything. We work closely with a department in India that does the same thing we do for the Asian part of the business, and if I worked overnight, it would mean I wouldn't be in the office when our American contacts were but would be when our Indian counterparts were, so really would have some advantages. My boss wouldn't want me to do this regularly, but if I had a really good reason to do it sometimes, she'd probably just go “If you want to be up all night, that's up to you”. So, if you think that you might sometimes need to come to work more like 10am but you'd be happy to still stay till 10pm, then something without much client-facing time might work out fine for you, even in a higher-stress, tight-deadlines environment.

    As for how to talk about it, presuming that it would be somewhat legally protected, I wouldn't make a big deal of it in interviews etc. I'd try to ask enough questions to know how much of an issue it is and let out enough information to find out how they'll react (because having a boss who hates the way you have to work is no fun at all) but not feel like I needed to spill my guts about everything.

    This all comes from not being in your shoes myself, but having a boyfriend with issues that have a major impact on his ability to work and having a coworker with (mental) medical issues that have required some working-around in our department, and seeing what has and hasn't worked out as well with her. (Like, during our 3-day crunch time, there was one day that she didn't make it to work till 10 or 11…but she stayed late and made sure the work was caught up before she left, so it wasn't as big of an issue as it would've been otherwise. If she'd been unable to come in till late and then unable to work a full day, that would've been an issue because we can't afford the loss of workforce during that time and my boss would've had to explain that to her.)

    #586208
    mla1169
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    I don't discuss my medical issue with employers. Even though the ADA protects you I can assure you that if it is brought up during the interview, you're not likely to make the short list of viable candidates.

    Not knowing the specifics of your situation I'll tell you what I've done. First and foremost I am constantly seeking out ways to minimize the impact of my condition on my employer. I know what aggravates my condition and what helps and am very diligent about keeping myself in top form. I know hundreds of creative ways to avoid anybody having to see my handwriting including carrying around a signature stamp with me at all times.

    I'm sure there is a message board somewhere out there for people with your situation and I encourage you to find professionals with the same diagnosis who can share suggestions. At the end of the day if you've held multiple positions that were short lived even because of a medical condition it will be a sticking point in interviews. Your reasons can be 100% explainable but that doesn't assure a potential employer that you'll be around long. Your best angle is to be 100% clear on your limitations and only apply to jobs that naturally work well with those limitations because it's unrealistic to expect a week of PTO right away should you become ill.

    Finally these exams are exceptionally demanding and there will be an assumption that if you managed to get through them in 18 months you're able to handle just about anything accounting wise as far as mental capacity and stamina are concerned.

    FAR- 77
    AUD -49, 71, 84
    REG -56,75!
    BEC -75

    Massachusetts CPA (non reporting) since 3/12.

    #586209
    jpowell31
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    i've been lucky with the employer i have as they've kind of been there for me as i graduated college (then paid for my MBA) and now supporting me through the CPA. i've always had health issues but more serious and pretty mysterious ones recently so they were aware because i had to take time off of work – i even ended up in a hospital the night before aboard meeting with a client flying private specifically and i had organized the whole thing and presentation. they're very good with work/life balance and i chose to work here because of that over going into auditing – something i dread but really the payout and experience is good for future endeavours but i know it would not make me happy.

    my situation is different in that my employers aware based on the fact that majority of it happened while working with them and people are very much aware of personal lives here. also we get 10 days sick leave. instead of taking these to sleep all day because of a cold (i've maybe taken 3 days in 3 years for flu-ish sicknesses) i will notify them ahead of time that i'm taking a full day to get all my doctor appointments in – that way i'm not coming and going throughout the days making people ask questions.

    it's really affected my CPA journey as i'm stressed from work, studying, health issues and everyone has personal stuff going on of course. my health issues are further aggravated by stress and studying is much harder when you're stressed so i can't wait for this to be over and hopefully my brain, body (and friends, family and boyfriend) will be much happier.

    going into your interviews i wouldn't bring it up straight away but be more interested in work/life balance and building a community away from home/build personal relationships….etc. if they don't seem like they like that question/answer it's probably not a good fit for you. if they do, bring up only what you feel comfortable with or what's necessary. you don't want them to think – okay this guys gonna drive up our health insurance rates!! right off the bat :).

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    #586210
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    There is some really valuable feedback here. I really appreciate the advice from everyone who has posted. I have a ton of pressure on myself to be successful. I am honest with myself about my condition but keep pushing myself further. I often fail and create issues.

    I am actually on target with ridiqls, as I have set up a bookkeeping/accounting & IT firm to capitalize on my skills. It is comforting to hear someone, off the top of their head, arrive at the same conclusion I did back in February. I will receive CPA certification I believe though.

    I understand the legal and financial issues surrounding exposing medical issues too early in the process. It is very important to me at this point, to have open and clear relationships with people right from the start. I don't want to say I can commit and then later down the road expose my issues. So I agree that this is something that has to be finessed while networking and building clients.

    I think all the discussion here has really made me focus on some key points of employment with medical issues. It is pleasurable talking to friendly people. I encourage anyone with similar issues or feedback to please post. Thank you.

    #586211
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    My medical problems showed up after I went to work for a CPA. I assumed that most of them were stress related, but it turns out they were more cancer related. Now I've got my license and I own half of the firm. We are a 2 CPA firm and when one of us is out, it gets tough on the person at the office. My partner also has some serious health issues. He's a 3 time cancer survivor. In fact, last week we both received our annual thyroid cancer treatment and were out most of the week. The treatment is rougher on me, for some unknown reason, so he held down the fort while I was at home with a massive headache for 2 days and 1 day while I was doing the nuclear power puke. To make sure things get done, we have the ability to work from home. We keep the server and a couple of computers running at the office all of the time so that we can log in from home and work when we feel like it. There have been a lot of nights that I couldn't sleep so I got up and did some work. We manage to get it all done and keep our clients happy. Neither of us wants to tell a client that we didn't get something done on time, so we work when, and where, we can. Good Luck to you!

    #586212
    golfball7773
    Participant

    I have to deal with medical problems at work too. I am 25 year old male who has had 5 open heart surgeries. I never disclose until after I been on the job for a while that I may need time off in the future for a heart surgery, etc or a vacation 

    We close on the 10th business day each month and the night before about 6 months back, I ended up in the ER for chest pains etc. I still did manage it to make it in the next morning by 9 but I did leave right after we closed. It helps to have a boss that is super encouraging and allows flexing of the schedule for appointments, illness, etc.

    My advice is non-profit or governmental  I work in non-profit for a large company it is very low stress except for all the office politics (that is another story). I usually run out of things to do by the end of the month and if I am gone we have 14 other people to help out.

    AUD - NINJA in Training
    BEC - 86
    FAR - NINJA in Training
    REG - NINJA in Training
    AUD - 71, 73

    BEC - 74, 86

    REG - 77*

    FAR - 57

    *expired

    (I have been trying to become a CPA since 2013). only one test down.......

    FAR: 63, 55, 62
    REG: 65, 77*
    AUD: Fail, 64, 71
    BEC: 72, 74, 81

    *expired

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