My CPA Post Mortem

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    Anonymous
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    I just wanted to share my thoughts and advice on the exam and the process in one mega post. I got my final, passing, score a week ago and I’ve had some time to think over everything and decompress.

    I was laid off from last job a couple of years ago. At the time I decided I was going to go back to school and finish my Master’s Degree in Accounting. I’m extremely fortunate that my wife is a Registered Nurse (RN). Her job was good enough to support the two of us while I went back to school. But, more

    Importantly, she knew what I was going through so there weren’t any fights about me sitting on the couch doing nothing. Years ago the situation was reversed where I was working and she was going to school to get her RN license so she understood the process and didn’t complain that things had switched. I took full course loads and got through the program as fast as possible. At that point I started looking at the CPA and decided to go for it. I met the requirements and I realized that if I don’t go for it now, I never would. She supported me the whole way but I’d be lying if I said it was all sunshine, puppy dogs and roses. We had our fights during the process and the “all you do anymore is study” talks which I’m sure everyone is familiar with. But the fact that she went through a similar process (even if it’s not as difficult as the CPA) to become a Registered Nurse helped out.

    I started in July 2014. I did my research in review programs and went with Becker. They seem to be very polarizing with people either really loving them or really hating them. I think the price has a lot to do with this because they’re not cheap. But, for me, Becker was effective and it worked. I started with FAR because most people consider it to be the hardest of the 4 and I needed to prove that I could pass it. I figured if I couldn’t pass FAR, I was wasting my time. I still wasn’t working at the time so I spent all of July and all of August studying 6+ hours a day 7 days a week. During this time I did get a job in Accounting with the Federal Government but I didn’t start until September. That gave me enough time to finish FAR and I sat for my first section on August 30. I passed with an 84.

    Passing FAR was a blessing and a curse. I proved that I could do it but I was so burnt out on the process after just one exam that I nearly gave up. AUD was my second section and I didn’t study for it nearly as hard as I did for FAR. I had just started my new job and having a job that doesn’t require a license almost proved too much a disincentive for me. There were quite a few nights where I blew off studying and I didn’t take it nearly as serious as I did FAR. As exam date got closer, I started to reevaluate things though and spent the last couple of weeks hitting the material really hard. Luckily I passed with an 80 during a quarter where only 42% of people taking AUD passed. This score makes me wonder if the exam actually is curved a bit. I wonder if I would have passed during another quarter or if results were SO bad overall that my score was pushed into a passing range due to all of the other people failing. Obviously I will never know and the AICPA line is that they don’t curve scores. At any rate, I couldn’t tell you a single thing about this exam. I think I blocked a lot of AUD from my brain. It was, definitely, the low point in my CPA studies.

    Passing AUD gave me the motivation to finish strong. If I had failed AUD, things might have ended then and there but by passing I was committed. BEC was my next section. BEC was the “easy” section I had been led to believe. Very quickly I found out that was a bald faced lie. BEC is NOT the easy section. There is no such thing as an easy CPA section. BEC has the highest passing rate but that’s not the same thing as being “easy.” Luckily I realized this really early on (as soon as I hit B2 in Becker as a matter of fact). I cried and whined about it for a day or so and then I buckled down and told myself “Self, this isn’t as easy as you were led to believe so you need to take it seriously.” So that’s what I did. I spent nearly as much time on BEC as I did on FAR. Financial Management is still a weak spot in my Accounting arsenal but I really sat down on Financial Management and Cost Accounting to make sure I understood the main formulas. Every exam is different but mine was very formula and calculation heavy so I believe that this preparation paid off. I walked out feeling good on exam day and later I found out that I earned an 89 (my highest score).

    Last up was REG. This was, by far, the hardest to study for but, as odd as it sounds, the most enjoyable section to study for. It’s the most detailed of the four exams in my opinion. While FAR covers a ton of material, it stays pretty high level on all of the topics. REG goes into a lot more depth which makes it really tough. But because this was my last exam, I had motivation to finish strong and I picked up a lot of good study habits with BEC and I carried those with me into REG. But on exam day this was the exam I was least confident about. Especially walking out of the Prometrics center. Everyone says that the simulations for REG are brutal and they are not kidding. The Sims were just as brutal as advertised and I had no idea if I passed or failed due to them. In the end I got an 83 which makes me one very happy camper.

    I passed all 4 exams on the first try. It wasn’t easy but here’s my secret: I didn’t take a single exam until I was ready. I know that this sounds obvious but I think a lot of people want to rush the whole process. People sign up for 2 exams (or even more!) in a test window and then find out they’re running out of time. A lot of people can do it but I’m not one of them. I found that taking one exam per window worked for me. It gave me time to get through all of the material and then spend a solid month in Review Phase. Ironically the section I spent the least amount of time reviewing was FAR. I finished the lectures and homework in mid-August and that gave me only two weeks for review. I think that worked out for FAR though since there is SO much material that it’s easy to forget little details. I’ve said a number of times that it’s a balancing act. Take the exam too early and you’re not ready for it. Take it too late and you’ve memorized answers to review questions and you run the risk of forgetting important details. It’s absolutely critical to find that sweet spot (the Goldilocks zone) and take your exam at that point.

    This site has also been a tremendous help. The CPA exam is something that the average person will never understand and never have to go through. Those people will never know what we go through to get our licenses. But this site is great because everyone is here for the same reason and we’re all going through the same thing. My advice for people just starting, get involved with the Study Group sticky threads. They really help keep you sharp and they also reinforce that you aren’t the only one doing it. I didn’t get involved in the FAR or AUD groups but I was very active in the BEC and REG groups and it helped a lot.

    So that’s my experience. Feel free to ask questions if anyone is still around reading this 😉

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  • #685339
    Missbots
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    Good post..and congrats on passing all the exams…

    #685340
    Anonymous
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    Totally agree with you on the part about waiting until you are ready. My original plan was to start testing in October 2014 and be finished at the end of February 2015. Truth be told, I could've done it, but I would have been miserable during the holidays, trying to study for a late November exam during Thanksgiving and an early January exam during Christmas/New Year's, so I pushed everything back by about a month, and that was good enough. I generally think that there are a ton of people who take the exams without adequate preparation. Usually there's some kind of pressure on them to get it done ASAP. In truth, you'll probably finish faster by giving yourself adequate study time. The real delay is not studying; it's failing and having to wait till the next window for a retake (and potentially losing credit for something you already passed, too).

    #685341
    Ag12thman
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    Thanks for all of this information. This is good stuff for those of us still trying to decide on a Review Course and kick this thing off in a pretty heavy way.

    FAR: July 2016

    #685342
    ijustwant76
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    I dont know that you can completely feel ready for one of these tests. Personally, I think the effort required to get to 100% is not really worth the hours. You're only shooting for a “C”, not an “A”. OTOH, my “C” effort got me 70s — so I guess I shoulda put in a “B” effort.

    #685343
    Key522
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    Great Post! I want to sent this to my friends and family because they don't understand how hard and dedicated you have to be. Thanks for the motivation and tips.

    AUD - 85
    BEC - 84
    FAR - 77
    REG - 80
    BEC - Feb 2015 68 April 2015 84

    FAR - July 2015 77

    AUD - Oct 2015 74 Feb 2016 71 April 2016 85

    REG - Jan 2016 67 July 2016 74 Oct 2016 80

     

    BEC Feb 2015 68 - rematch Apr 2015 - 84
    FAR July 2015 77
    AUD Oct 2015 74 Feb 2016 71 April 2016 85
    REG Jan 2016 67 July 2016

    #685344
    Gabe
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    Great post Angel! My wife is also a RN, so she *kind of* knew what she was getting into 🙂 In fact, she defended me many times to her family, which was nice. Definitely could not have done it without her. When I passed REG, I gave her the day without the boys 🙂

    Congrats again man!

    CPA, CFE
    CISA- Experience will be completed by August 2016

    #685345
    Anonymous
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    Hey Gabe, how is your license coming along?

    I FINALLY got all the signatures I needed for my experience. I'm hoping to get my fingerprints tomorrow and get the background check kicked off. I still have to do the ethics exam but it doesn't look like it will take long. I'm hoping to have everything submitted early next week. It took a lot longer to gather everything up than I thought it would.

    #685346
    Anonymous
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    @ijustwant76 – What is “completely” ready, though? No one goes in legitimately expecting a 99. But there is a notable difference between “prepared to pass” and “prepared to fail.”

    We see people on here in panic mode a day or two before their exams because there are entire chapters of their review texts that they haven't read and they want to know “Can I just skim through this, or is this heavily tested?” Or they're scoring in the 50s on progress tests and want to know just how similar the exam is going to be to NINJA or Becker or Wiley questions. Those people are not ready to pass a CPA exam and would benefit from rescheduling. I know it's not cheap to reschedule when you're that close to exam day, but wasting $150-$200 on a failed exam isn't cheap, either, and the psychological toll of failure is extra.

    #685347
    Anonymous
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    Yeah, I agree completely with Casey. She said it better than I did actually.

    You don't need to be 100% ready for the exam. That is, flat out, impossible to do. But so many people want to pass the whole exam in one or two test windows that they aren't giving themselves enough time to learn the material. I'm not saying my way is the best. It worked for me and for similar people I stand by it. 1 exam per window and prepare yourself as fully as possible and knock it out of th park. I'd much rather walk out on test day thinking “I got this” and score a high 80's than be on pins and needles for upwards of a month and scrape by with a 76. My strategy was 1 exam per window and as soon as I finished an exam, move on to the next. I didn't wait around for scores. I never took more than a day or two off between exams and I think that helped me tremendously. The only exam I didn't feel at least good about when I left the center was REG. And the way it's designed, I'm not sure it's possible to feel good leaving REG…

    Like I said, it's a balancing act. If you schedule too soon, you won't be ready. You won't even get that “C” since you don't have the fundamentals down yet. And like Casey said, you see it all the time with the “My exam is in a week and I haven't even looked over chapters X, Y, Z yet…” And on the flip side, if you wait too long you'll have started to memorize answers to questions. It's going to be different for everyone, but as soon as you feel prepared, take the exam then and get it over with. But don't take it before you feel ready and don't wait too long after you feel ready.

    My biggest piece of advice for people studying (which I didn't include above) is this: Even on questions you have memorized, still go through the process. If it's a calculation, then re-do the calculation. If it's a concept, then stop and say “I remember the answer is B and the reason it is the correct anwer is because… A, C, and D are not correct because…”. Quality is far more important than quantity of MCQ. It's better to do fewer but really understand those questions than knock out 500 in a day but not stop to figure out why you missed the ones you did.

    #685348
    Anonymous
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    Such great advice on this post! Love it! I too took my time studying for each one until I felt ready (i.e. was getting 80-90% of MCQs and had memorized important concepts/formulas) and thankfully only had to sit through the exams once like you. In my opinion, the exams are very passable (and I'm no genius), but you have to give them the respect and dedication they deserve.

    #685349
    Runner237
    Participant

    You have to be careful stating you passed all 4 exams on the first try. Before the exam went computer based meaning paper exam you had to sit for all (4) parts at one time over 2 1/2 days consecutively. In order to get a passing 75 on one part you had to maintain a 50 score on the parts you failed. Some states were different but this was the case for taking the CPA exam in NJ. There were individuals who did pass all 4 parts over the 2 1/2 day testing period(May and November). Quite a feat.

    #685350
    Anonymous
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    I'm not sure I follow you. I don't mean to be confrontational and neither do I want to sound like I'm bragging but I did pass the exam on the first attempt. I didn't have to retake a single section. All 4 sections were passed on the first attempt. Each individual section has a, roughly, 50% passing rate and the consensus is that it's only between 10% to 20% of candidates who pass all 4 sections on their first attempt.

    So I guess what I'm trying to say is that I'm not following you.

    #685351
    Gabe
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    @Angel my experience has been verified as of today. The state board has to send me an official paper application for me to mail in…I'll probably get that done next week. I already have my ethics exam done and all my CPE. So..thinking I'll be officially licensed in June…worst case July.

    CPA, CFE
    CISA- Experience will be completed by August 2016

    #685352
    jsch8912
    Member

    @Runner: @Angel is just sharing his experience, he passed all 4 exams on his first try so big congrats to him! No need to talk about “back in the days, it was doable to pass everything in 2.5 days.” We live in the present now so who cares who could achieve what back in the days.

    #685353
    Shel_178
    Member

    I've also heard (can't speak from personal experience though) that the material on the paper exam wasn't as challenging because you were taking all four parts in a 2.5 day period and weren't eligible for a retake for another year. When the exam format was changed to what it is now, the material was made considerably more difficult and specific for each section to make up for the fact that candidates were able to split it up and retake in the next window.

    REG - 86
    FAR - 80
    BEC - 79
    AUD - 92...I'm done woohoo!

    Licensed CPA since Feb. 2014

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