No reason to withhold score

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  • #187926
    hzhao0802
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    Just think about this. I cannot find any reason for them to hold the score. Waiting 8-30 days could ruin study plan.

    Yes, you might say just study another section. But if we know we fail, why don’t we just get right back and retry it in next test window? I truly think AICPA should change score release rules. Anyway, the score is graded by computer except for BEC. Technically, we are graded as soon as we finish exam. If you took GMAT, you can get your score on MCQ right away!! The score for essay part takes couple of weeks which makes me think the score release rule is way better than CPA. Now AICPA makes us wait and they impose a time limitation for passing all 4 parts. How ironic it is! Is there anybody with the same thoughts?

    FAR - 88
    REG - 88
    AUD - 99
    BEC - 87

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  • #587934
    Anonymous
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    The turnaround is actually pretty fast compared to a lot of professional exams. If u take ur exam near the end of a cutoff u can actually get your score in 7 to 8 days or so.

    #587935
    Kimboroni
    Member

    Someone here wrote and asked them why it takes so long, and they got a complex answer, but basically it has to do with needing an adequate amount of data in order to validate their scoring process.

    AUD 84 (1/9/14-Wiley books/TB + free materials)
    FAR 83 (5/21/14-the above + NINJA 10 Pt Combo Lite)
    REG 84 (7/9/14-Wiley books/TB + NINJA Audio/FC/Notes)
    BEC 76 (10/5/14-Wiley books/TB + NINJA Audio/FC)

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    #587936
    shankysays
    Member

    Basically, they don't “curve” the exam in terms of overall score, but they do analyze individual questions and weight them based on answers over a particular time period (so if 80% of the people get a question wrong but you happened to get it right, it is worth more). I agree with you – the AICPA should just use a straight % method, but they have their reasons for keeping pass rates low (more $$$ obviously). I think they're pretty shady about the whole process (do they give partial credit on sims or not? on the research sim or not? seems to only be when it benefits them to do so), to be honest, but it's not like we really have a choice.

    BEC - 72, 82! ✓
    FAR - 80! ✓
    AUD - 70, 92! ✓
    REG - 74, 78! ✓

    Licensed CPA 5/2015

    #587937
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @hzhao0802Scores go through state board review as well as a number of quality control procedures. I've also read that there is further review done over borderline scores (meaning they will actually look more in-depth at your TBS responses if you're at a 74).

    I would personally rather have a second set of eyes on my borderline scores and quality control procedures in place to make sure my score is correct than the instant gratification of an immediate score.

    #587938
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Interesting reads for the grading process and “curved” myths.

    https://www.mocpa.org/young-professionals/cpa-candidate/license-req/exam-myths

    “The AICPA's Exam Team answered questions about the CPA exam, posed by Another71.com, an accounting blog focusing on the CPA exam. The resulting blog post debunked myths relating to the CPA exam.


    A common myth that circulates among CPA exam candidates is that CPA exam scores are curved according to the performance of other candidates taking the same section. Is a candidate's score entirely independent of the performance of other candidates? Does the AICPA employ any curving mechanism to keep pass rates at their historical levels of 45 to 50 percent on average per section?

    The CPA exam is not curved. And yes, every candidate's score is entirely independent of other candidates' examination results.

    The CPA exam is a criterion-referenced examination, which means that it rests upon predetermined standards. Every candidate's performance is measured against established standards to determine whether the candidate has demonstrated the level of knowledge and skills that is represented by the passing score. Every candidate is judged against the same standards, and every score is an independent result.

    A widely held frustration among people who sit for BEC is that they don't get their score right away. Since there are no subjective elements to BEC since it is 100 percent multiple choice (currently), why is a candidate not given at least a “preliminary” score with the caveat that it is subject to review?

    Scores — even preliminary ones — cannot be released without state board review and the application of standard quality control procedures. For these reasons, issuing scores at test centers is impractical and the possibility is not being considered.

    When candidates score a 74 on an exam, the inevitable question that they ask is, “Should I apply to get it rescored?” In 2008, approximately how many candidates submitted applications to have their exams regraded? What percentage of those applications had a score that changed due to the regrading process? How many candidates went from fail to pass due to submitting an application for a regrade?

    There is no such thing as a rescore or a regrade. The service available is “score review,” an automated score verification process. It involves making certain that the approved answer key was used in scoring and that it was correctly applied. In 2008, score review requests did not result in any score changes.

    A common complaint about both the grading process and score reporting process for the CPA exam is that they are not very transparent. Candidates feel very much left in the dark. What steps is the AICPA taking to improve the transparency of these processes and to keep candidates better informed?

    When it comes to scoring, “How is the CPA exam scored?” is a very successful AICPA effort to bring transparency to the process. It is a non-technical overview providing insight into scoring without the use of psychometric jargon. The technical aspects of scoring are, of course, much less accessible to the layman. However, for those who wish to tackle the technical, a wealth of information is readily available on the Internet about Item Response Theory (IRT), the psychometric model that is the basis of CPA exam scoring.

    The current score reporting in two waves seems to be well understood by candidates but much more needs to be done to erase candidate misconceptions about why some scores are released earlier than others. For example, candidates need to know that those who are presented with simulations that have not been tested previously will receive their scores in the second wave, even if they test at the beginning of a testing window. A sufficient number of responses to new simulations must be available for psychometric analysis before scoring can begin. and it is impossible to predict who will receive new simulations as simulations are assigned at random.

    Currently, scores are released in two waves per testing window — commonly referred to as Wave 1 and Wave 2. A candidate who sits for an exam early in the testing window and does not get their score in Wave 1 has to wait for yet another month to get their score and oftentimes their study progress and motivation wanes because of it. Are there plans in the future for the AICPA to move to real-time score reporting to better serve the candidates?

    Faster and more frequent score release will be introduced after the implementation of CBT-e — a program of major CPA exam improvements. However, “real-time” score reporting is not a realistic option and is not being considered. (Refer to the response in question 2.)

    Another widely held sentiment about score releases is that if a candidate doesn't receive their score in Wave 2 of a testing window, then they are “borderline” — i.e., 72-77. Would you say that in general, the most candidates who don't receive their score by Wave 2 are “borderline?”

    There are several possible reasons why some scores are released faster than others. If psychometric analysis is required, for example, the scores of all candidates who took a articular examination version — whether passing, failing or on the brink — are held until the analysis is completed. For those who took AUD, FAR or REG, the “second reads”of written communication responses may also be a factor. “Second reads” are additional reviews of essays for candidates whose scores are close to passing.

    Another question that candidates have in regard to score reporting is the fact that they leave a testing center with little more than a ventured guess as to how they performed. Has the AICPA looked into a reporting format that gives a candidate their raw score on the exam prior to leaving the testing center or soon thereafter?

    As indicated previously, plans are in place to introduce faster and more frequent score reporting after CBT-e, the new CPA exam, is implemented. There are no plans, however, to provide candidates with raw scores — or any other kinds of scores — at the test center. (See response to question 2.)

    In regard to the “18-month rule,” candidates often feel they are at a disadvantage due to a relatively slow score reporting process. For instance, if a candidate sits for FAR on Day 1 of the testing window and misses the cut for the Wave 1 score release in the second month, by the time they get their score in Wave 2 of the third month, nearly three months of their 18-month window has expired. If you count the fact that four of those 18 months are not testable months, they have even less time left. Has there been any discussion of expanding the arbitrary 18-month timeframe to 24 months?

    Perhaps the real issue here is the test-taking strategy. A better approach might be to take two sections in the first window, two in the next, and use the remaining four windows to retake any sections failed on the first attempt.”

    #587939
    mla1169
    Participant

    They did just change it about 3 years ago. Score release now is lightening fast! I took an exam 1/5/11 and didn't get a score until the middle of March. And we still only had an 18 month window to pass.

    FAR- 77
    AUD -49, 71, 84
    REG -56,75!
    BEC -75

    Massachusetts CPA (non reporting) since 3/12.

    #587940
    hzhao0802
    Member

    @Kim,

    I disagree with the adequate number of data for processing. As they said, each candidate is independent which mean each question is already assigned weight. If you say the adequate number means the number of candidates, it also doesn't make any sense. what if the number of candidates who take exam doesn't qualify as adequate? then they are not graded? No, they still will be graded. The thing makes me feel not good is that they say score is not curved and they don't release it.

    FAR - 88
    REG - 88
    AUD - 99
    BEC - 87

    #587941
    Kimboroni
    Member

    You can Google to read more on how test score validation works, but one aspect of it generally is comparing the actual test scores to the expected results. As you probably know, each section would have multiple versions, and when you incorporate the adaptive feature of the CPA exam, there is quite a bit of room for answer key error there, so it is good that they have a process in place to help make sure score errors are not being made.

    AUD 84 (1/9/14-Wiley books/TB + free materials)
    FAR 83 (5/21/14-the above + NINJA 10 Pt Combo Lite)
    REG 84 (7/9/14-Wiley books/TB + NINJA Audio/FC/Notes)
    BEC 76 (10/5/14-Wiley books/TB + NINJA Audio/FC)

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