Part time job with small CPA firm

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    ajurew1
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    Does anyone have suggestions for how to find part time jobs with very small CPA firms? I’ve e-mailed a few local CPA firms near where I live and have not received a response.

    I do not have any CPA related experience, which is making it more difficult. My experience is in Commercial Real Estate as a Lease Analyst. I am very interested in working with small businesses and individuals and want some CPA related experience on my resume. I am only looking for a few hours a week, and am willing to even work for free just to learn.

    What is the best way to go about my search?

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    FAR - 75 (10/11/2014)

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  • #649208
    Son
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    ajurew, sorry if I come as too direct, but would you yourself be interested in hiring someone “for a few hours a week”? every new job requires training and significant time investment in a new employee, and maybe others would disagree but I would think twice about hiring someone with your requirements. Especially so if the business is small and every new person influences the company's atmosphere and workflow greatly.

    You're basically asking to become an apprentice, so I think without having a personal connection it would be very difficult to land a job that would actually teach you something (not talking about situations where companies need someone for a few hours a week to make photo copies or organize binders). I would suggest you check with companies such as H&R Block to see if they're looking for some additional workforce during their busy season – that is, if you're interested in tax. Also, if you have a close friend or a college professor who knows you well and can recommend you as a diligent person to a CPA I would ask them for help.

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    #649209
    Anonymous
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    5-ish hours a week may be hard to get and to make work, especially if you have no prior experience. Think about it – for tax season, there's about 10 weeks of busy season. If you worked all busy season, by the end of it, you'd have 50 hours in – less than a full busy season week. You'd still be having to ask them complete beginner questions at the end of the season. So, for them, it'd be a whole season of trying to train you without ever getting to benefit from having a trained assistant. I'd suggest trying to do some work with VITA or H&R Block this year to get your feet wet, then seeing if next year you could be a quasi-trained extra set of hands and be more useful to someone.

    All that being said, you could be useful to the right person, especially if you could do more like 10-15 hours a week during busy season. I've worked in 2 super-small accounting firms (like, 1 full time owner/employee and a second almost-full-time or full-time employee), and both would've loved an extra set of hands during tax season, and maybe even year-round. At one of these firms, I was the 2nd full-time person, and we had a college kid working 10-15 hours a week. There were times that he was just copying paperwork, but there were times that the boss and I were just copying paperwork, too. That time of year, we all just did what had to be done to get it done. At the other firm, I was temporarily the 5-10 hours a week assistant for busy season. It became apparent after a few weeks, though, that the owner was expecting more hours than I could offer, so that ended up not working out. The 5-10 hours a week position, though, was after I'd worked the other one, so I came in as a trained employee. Actually, that guy was switching to the tax prep software that I'd used at my previous job, so I knew his software better than he did, so I was software consultant as well as tax employee. Anyway, as a trained person, I was useful to him…but if I didn't know my way around a tax return yet, I wouldn't have been useful.

    So…I would say, helping out some is a great idea, but may have to wait till next year. If you could do a few hours year-round and more during tax season, then something year-round might work out, since the few hours a week would keep you all in touch and you familiar with the office, their methods, etc.; however, if a few hours a week is all you can do, it's likely that they wouldn't need you year-round.

    Also, if you are still pretty young, you could try inquiring about part-time internships, as this would indicate your desire to learn and internships aren't always paid. Asking for an unpaid job looks more like you're desperate or up to something. Small CPA firms are often very protective of their client lists and may see someone asking if they can volunteer as someone trying to steal clients. It's sad that they see it this way, but I've worked with some who would.

    #649210
    ajurew1
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    Lilla,

    Thank you for your very detailed response. I would be very happy if I could find part time work for 10-15 hours per week. I've been trying to find full time accounting jobs, but have not had any luck. I was hoping that finding something part time would allow me to get some relevant experience. I graduated college in 2006, so I don't think I'd be able to get an internship. I've had 7 years of experience in real estate back office accounting type jobs, but never had the opportunity to move into property accounting or staff accounting type roles. My performance reviews have always been very good, however I seem to be stuck.

    How would you suggest I approach small CPA firms to see if any would be interested in having me help in any way possible? I have another full time job that is flexible with hours, so I am not desperate for money or a job at this time, I just want experience.

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    AUD - 85 (12/5/2013)
    FAR - 75 (10/11/2014)

    #649211
    Anonymous
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    I would suggest simply inquiring regarding part-time positions. If your real estate back office accounting work would be considered in part bookkeeping work, then you could push your ability to help with bookkeeping. Given that most colleges that I've seen really don't teach any sort of bookkeeping, for a small firm to find someone they can depend on to help with their clients' bookkeeping is actually a pretty helpful thing. I'm always a fan of personally stopping by the accounting offices and introducing yourself while dropping off a cover letter and resume, but I'm also in a small town that still keeps to the old ways often, so this may or may not be appropriate where you are.

    #649212
    Tux
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    IMO this isn't a good time to contact CPA firms.

    Everyone is in the middle of tax season and very busy. It's easy to assume that they are already staffed for this year's tax season. You can look on Craigslist and LinkedIn to find any current advertisements, if someone is still looking for staffing.

    I like Lilla's idea of offering bookkeeping services. I believe CPA's are always looking for reliable bookkeepers, especially during tax season. So, that could be what you offer at this busy time.

    Otherwise, wait till after tax season, then start making CPA contacts and find out if anyone is willing to help you get started with a few hours per week of work.

    I believe the best time to look for accounting jobs is in the fall. Everyone is preparing for new year hires.

    In the meantime, just keep consistently looking and making business contacts through friends, coworkers, etc.

    You'll find the right thing.

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    #649213
    needhelpnow
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    I suggest you consider volunteering

    #649214
    tomq04
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    I've been talking to a CPA at church about this very thing. He think's he'll have some work in March/April for me to come in and do a full day of Saturdays. He says the other sole proprietaries he knows generally would love the idea of having someone to help 1 day/week since the notion of hiring someone full time really eats up their bottom line, but someone to do some of the minutia 1 day/week is quite beneficial to their mental health.

    Based on my experience this year is that I should have been doing this last fall. Fortunately I've got a nice 8-5 and a garage business to keep me busy this year.

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    #649215
    ajurew1
    Participant

    Thank you everyone for your responses.

    After I started this thread, I contacted several smaller CPA firms in the area, and one week later, received a response from one asking me to come in for an interview today.

    After a short interview about my background, I was hired at the end of the interview to work two 4 hour shifts per week, plus extra hours if needed. They are willing to train me on several aspects of their business, and might have me work with one of their real estate clients and local government clients. If I am able to learn quickly, I was told they want it to turn into a full time job.

    For those of you still searching for a job without much luck, it doesn't hurt to try an alternative method such as this, especially if you can afford to only work part time or have another job that is flexible.

    BEC - 84 (4/13/2013)
    REG - 82 (10/17/2013)
    AUD - 85 (12/5/2013)
    FAR - 75 (10/11/2014)

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