[Q2] BEC Study Group 2014 – Thread #2

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  • #559591

    thanks jeff

    question for bec ppl

    do we include fixed costs when you consider net present value of investments with capital budgeting?

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    #559593

    like to calculate profitability of a project, do we take into consideration any relevant fixed costs (i know fixed costs arent usually relevant but they could be controllable which makes them relevant)

    im using the example for B3-8 for all the becker ppl out there

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    #559594
    Determined CPA
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    Do you mean like depreciation? I suppose so since depreciation is used in the calculation. Or do you mean something else, like rent? I think for NPV you only use costs that have a direct effect on the cash flow (inflow or outflow), which is why depreciation is used. I cant think of any others that would impact cash flow.

    You use relevant FC when deciding things like make/vs buy and things of that nature…

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    #559595

    Okay let's say a machine costs $200,000. Machine uses straight-line depreciation and has a useful life of five years @ a tax rate of 40%.

    The new machine is expected to increase annual sales by 20,000 units at a sales price of $40 per unit. Incremental operating costs are comprised of $30 per unit in variable costs and total fixed costs of $40,000 per year.

    What's the NPV?

    Is the yearly net inflow calculated this way OPTION 1:

    Net Proceeds from sales = 20,000(10) – 40000 = 160000*.6 = 96000

    Depcreciation Tax Shield= 16000

    Total Annual Inflow = $112000

    OR this way OPTION 2:

    Net Proceeds from sales = 20,000(10) = 200000*.6 = 120000

    Depcreciation Tax Shield= 16000

    Total Annual Inflow = $136000

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    #559596
    Determined CPA
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    Came across this link…a quick 35 question quiz. Focuses a lot on bonds/stock/that crap. Good luck!

    edited by jeff: friends don't let friends to random internet quizzes.

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    #559597
    taxman89
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    Okay let's say a machine costs $200,000. Machine uses straight-line depreciation and has a useful life of five years @ a tax rate of 40%.

    The new machine is expected to increase annual sales by 20,000 units at a sales price of $40 per unit. Incremental operating costs are comprised of $30 per unit in variable costs and total fixed costs of $40,000 per year.

    you take the

    20,000 x 40 = 800,000 Revenue

    20,000 x 30 = 600,000 Variable Cost

    40,000 Fixed Cost

    =160.000 increased income.

    you need a rate of return to find NPV because you would take the present value of an annuity and multiply it times this 160k i think

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    #559598
    Determined CPA
    Participant

    scarletknight91 – is this a real question? Ive never seen a question for NPV include a fixed cost component before. Now im going to be google crazy. if you find the answer please share bc this will bother me. lol

    A - 75
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    R - 84! Done!!

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    #559599
    taxman89
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    i could be totally wrong but thats how i am reading the problem…….

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    Reg-82 4x its not me its you...and no we cant be friends
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    #559600

    i modified it from a becker final exam question. the actual question asked for something else, but i noticed that it included fixeed costs which i hadnt seen before. and taxman you are correct there was npv table in the question but trying to copy and paste that would be impossible. i just wanted to see if ppl would include it in their calculation to find the net inflow

    also Determined CPA, how did you score on that quiz? i got a 77..

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    #559601
    Determined CPA
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    Yeah, I guess that makes sense taxman..the questions usually say ‘after(or before) tax income stream. I guess in that amount would include the fixed portion.

    A - 75
    B - 78 God is good.
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    R - 84! Done!!

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    #559602
    Determined CPA
    Participant

    I got a 74 – which is my worst nightmare

    A - 75
    B - 78 God is good.
    F - 77 Answered prayers.
    R - 84! Done!!

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    Still on a cloud and in shock. Through God, all things will happen.

    #559603

    8.Which of the following products has the lowest price elasticity of demand?

    A.Autos

    B.Recreational vehicles

    C.Bread

    D.Furniture

    the answer is C but isn't the meaning of lowest the most inelastic? these answer choices stink because inelastic goods are like medicine and absolute necessities that people need to survive (aka diabetic meds)

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    #559604

    12.Which of the following corresponds to interest and dividends received by residents in the U.S. from investments in other countries?

    A.A credit in the capital account

    B.A credit in the current account

    C.A debit in the capital account

    D.A debit in the current account

    what on earth is a current and a captial account?

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    #559605

    that quiz is highly questionable haha one of the questions was this

    15.Which of the following is not a stock exchange?

    A.New York Stock Exchange (NYSE)

    B.American Stock Exchange (AMEX)

    C.Boston Stock Exchange

    D.NASDAQ

    and it said the NASDAQ was not a stock exchange…. lol

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    #559606
    Determined CPA
    Participant

    exactly, I would want to pick something like health care or something. I think I picked A bc people will need to still drive and I assumed the other 3 could be substituted. I guess I thought ppl would stop eating bread LOL. ugh.

    A - 75
    B - 78 God is good.
    F - 77 Answered prayers.
    R - 84! Done!!

    Paperwork sent - waiting for license!!
    Still on a cloud and in shock. Through God, all things will happen.

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