Recognition of asset

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    Anonymous
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    A revenue may result from a decrease of an asset from primary operations – Incorrect

    A revenue may result from a decrease of a liability from primary operations – Correct

    I can’t understand how a decrease of an asset from primary operations, like inventory from an inventory account sold to a customer, doesn’t result in the recognition of revenue.

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  • #382666
    Anonymous
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    Provide context. What does the full question say/ask?

    #382667
    Anonymous
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    According to the FASB conceptual framework, an entity's revenue may result from:

    Correct: a) A decrease of a liability from primary operations (from my late night perspective: ex) accrual of a bond int PMT)

    Incorrect: b) A decrease of an asset (again it's late, but isn't sale for a profit of an asset a revenue?)

    #382668
    Anonymous
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    Yeah, I feel like we're missing something because it doesn't make sense to me either. Sorry I couldn't help.

    #382669
    musicamor
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    The decrease of an asset does not result in the recognition of income; expense is recognized when you decrease an asset. If we think in terms of a journal entry, what do we do to decrease an asset? We credit the asset to decrease it and must debit some other account–usually an income statement (P&L) account; therefore a debit to an income statement account immediately means “expense.”

    Let's use the inventory asset example you mention above. If we have $5,000 of inventory on hand at 12/31/12, and our physical inventory count reveals only $3,000, what do we do? We must “write-down (decrease) inventory from $5,000 to $3,000, which would result in $2,000 of expense being charged to COGS. Make sense? Based on what I am reading above, you are getting confused between revenue being generated from decreasing an asset (like inventory) and the literal accounting of a decreasing asset, irrespective of the revenue it may generate.

    Let's discuss how the decrease of a liability results in the recognition of revenue. We know that liabilities on a balance sheet carry a normal credit balance. When a liability is established, we more-often-than-not debit some type of expense on the income statement. Say, at 12/31/12 we had accrued rent of $10,000. When analyzing this balance sheet account during the month-end close process, we realized that we had overaccrued by $5,000. What do we do? We must debit accrued rent for $5,000 and credit rent expense for $5,000 because we had too much $$ in the account at the end of the year. When we credit rent expense (P&L account), we have recognized income; yes, I know, you're stuck on the fact that we are crediting an expense account. You're thinking how can that be revenue–it is! Whenever you decrease expense, you are generating revenue (income). Again, you must come out of the literal sense of thinking to embrace this concept.

    Let me know if I have confused you even more or if you need further clarification.

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    #382670
    rupert
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    “A revenue may result from a decrease of a liability from primary operations – Correct”

    The easiest way for me to think of this one is by using an unearned revenue account (a liability).

    Company receives cash for services to be performed in the future. This results in an increase in assets with a corresponding increase in liabilities (unearned revenue). When the company actually performs the services, service revenue increases and the liability (unearned revenue) decreases.

    “A revenue may result from a decrease of an asset from primary operations – Incorrect”

    “I can't understand how a decrease of an asset from primary operations, like inventory from an inventory account sold to a customer, doesn't result in the recognition of revenue.”

    The revenue is represented by the sale of the goods to the customer. Asset increases (cash or A/R) and revenue increases (sales revenue).

    The decrease of the asset (inventory) is actually the matching expense resulting from the same transaction.

    I think you're having trouble because you are thinking in terms of both the revenue and the matching expense as one item.

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    #382671
    Gatorbates
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    Say you are forgiven credit card debt (ST Liab, I'd consider part of primary operations). Question says, “May result in”.

    Decrease in Liability = Debit. Credit = Revenue.

    Conversly, if you decrease an asset = credit. Can't increase revenue.

    Just trying to look at it super simply.

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    #382672
    Anonymous
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    Thanks. That makes sense.

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