two ways to look at SIM studying

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    Anonymous
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    I would like to get feedback regarding how people study when it comes to the SIMS. The following are the two arguments I have compiled.

    1) the SIMS are not new material. They are what you have been practicing in the MCQ just formatted differently. If you understand the material you shouldn’t have a problem with the SIMS. I would look at SIM examples and understand how to utilize the AL. But I wouldn’t spend time doing each and every SIM that my study material provided because you never know what’s going to show up exam day. Dedicate your time to learning the material as much as you can.

    2) I have a hard time not studying a section of the exam that makes up 40% of the grade. I go through many SIMs and do them over and over. I also go back and review the ones I didn’t get correct during my final review. Not studying for the SIMs because you don’t know what is going to show up exam day is silly.

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  • #642699
    Gatorbates
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    Never studied for a SIM in my life. I fall into the first category above. If you know the material you've been drilling through with the MCQ, you should be fine for the SIMS.

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    #642700
    mla1169
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    Whatever works for you. Many people never practiced a SIM and did just fine, even passing all 4 the first time and many people practice sims and still fail the exam.

    My opinion is if you have time to practice them great. If not, no big deal.

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    #642701
    Anonymous
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    I like to review the SIMS personally because I want to see if I am able to apply the concepts I've been studying in a different format. Not being able to apply the concept in a format separate of the MCQS is probably a fair indicator that I need to review the concept more thoroughly. Also, if you have a firm understanding of the concepts it seems the SIMS (in the practice software) don't take a lot of time to work through, so why not get some experience with the functionality if nothing else. Additionally, practice using the AL seems very beneficial to me, efficient use of the AL can almost guarantee the correct answer of 1 SIM on exam day, if not more. During my final review I like to select what I consider the “harder” SIMS of each area and make sure to go over them a few times; especially if they are heavy in J/E's or seem widely applicable. Another note, I do not look at SIM solutions until after I have worked the SIM that way I know exactly where I stand instead of using the solution for a little boost and having false hope in my ability to do the work. Disclaimer, I put more emphasis on MCQs and general review than the SIMS but I still find them useful.

    #642702
    Kimboroni
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    I always practiced sims, but I also did less MCQs than many people probably do (the most was about 1300 total for FAR). It fits both my learning and testing style better. I knew going in that really good sim scores would be crucial for passing (see my score where there was not a 40% sim presence!).

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    BEC 76 (10/5/14-Wiley books/TB + NINJA Audio/FC)

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    #642703
    y_u_no_pass
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    Well I did every SIM for REG, no writing for BEC, and some of the SIMS for AUD, started doing them, ran out of time, then when I missed my practice research SIM, went back and practiced a bunch more. I think you need to practice them a little to be able to use the literature and get the research question correct (which is really just free points if you've practiced).

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    #642704

    I rarely practiced sims and fall mostly into the first bucket, I passed all four on the first shot with sims/wc coming in stronger on all four. With that, the Sims I did practice were the NINJA sims and found them to be incredibly on the nose as far as style and level of difficulty. If you have the NINJA MCQs anyway I think you would be foolish to not at least squeeze in some time, if nothing else then to familiarize yourself with the structure and maybe build a little confidence if you are particularly nervous about it. I still wouldn't devote a ton of time…maybe 10 hours or so spread throughout your final review week, preferably on the topics you know you are weakest in so you get the dual effect of also focusing on your weak spots.

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    #642705
    mkpaige1908
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    Honestly, I am a HUGE proponent of reviewing the simulations. My strategy for my exams has been to complete ALL of sims and MCQ provided by the software. So far it has worked for me with Audit (82) and Regulation (80). I think the benefits of practicing the simulations is as follows:

    1. The material is being tested differently in a simulation than in a MCQ. In my opinion studying the simulations will expose gaps in what you think you know.

    2. The multiple choice questions have the answers sitting in front of you but the sims require you to think more. You can guess on a MCQ and have a 25% chance of getting the answer right. The simulations not so much.

    3. There are lots of tricks in the way they test on the simulations that you can be prepared for when you take your exam. An example of something that I saw in my review sims was: JE's needing to be grouped by type, alphabetized and in descending dollar value order.

    4. By practicing the simulations I was able to go back into my notes/review course and fill in the gaps on weak areas.

    5. Studying MCQ only will lull you into a false sense of security that you know the material backwards and forwards. On a simulation there are combinations of topics that are being tested.

    I can honestly say that I have gotten some good performance data related to my weak areas from practicing simulations.

    It doesn't hurt to be over prepared. I've done all 71 simulations in my program for FAR and all 1,432 MCQ. Right now I'm trending at 77%. I hope I'm ready. 🙂

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    #642706
    Martin
    Participant

    I agree with n.2,but not because it is 40% of the exam,but more because of the difference between recognition and recalling information. The latter is a lot more difficult as per the explanation below and experience.

    Multiple choice, matching, and true-false questions require you to recognize the correct answer. Essay, fill-in-the-blank, and short answer questions require you to recall the information. Most of us agree that recognition tests are easier than recall tests. Why? In recognition tests, the information to be recalled is present, along with attractive alternatives. The task of recognition is to select the correct answer from among the alternatives. In recall, on the other hand, no possible answers are available (unless you cheat) but have to be generated. Unless you have absolutely no memory for the information, recognition is “easier” than recall.

    Does the brain find recognition easier? What parts of the brain are active when recognizing information? What same and different parts of the brain are active while recalling information? Cabeza, Kapur, Craik, McIntosh, Houle, and Tulving used PET to address these questions.

    Healthy young university students performed recognition and recall tasks while lying in the PET scan machine. In the study phase, the participant was shown word pairs, such as parents-piano. In the recognition condition, the participant was shown either the correct word pair again, such as parents-piano, or a pair in which the second word was incorrect, such as parents-wall. The participant was instructed to say the second word if he or she thought it was the correct one or else say “pass.” In the recall condition, the participant was shown the first word paired with word, such as parents-word?, and was instructed to say the second word out loud if it was remembered or else say “pass.”

    The PET scans identified all brain activity occurring during these tasks. Brain activity during the recognition tasks would include that related to recognition but also activity related to reading, speaking, and generally attending to the task. To eliminate activity not related to the specific type of memory they were studying, Cabeza et al. had participants also read word pairs while being scanned. They subtracted brain activity resulting from this task from each of the memory tasks to obtain measures of brain activity related to specific recognition and recall processes.

    KAREN: CAN YOU GET A HOLD OF DRAWINGS OF BRAINS SO I CAN LABEL THESE AREAS? DRAWING1: Right ventral surface of the cortex and cerebellum (like the top part of Fig 3.21 in Weitan, 4th ed. but unlabeled) DRAWING 2: Right medial surface of the cortex (like fig 3.18 in Weitan but unlabeled and without the limbic system colored in) I do have links to the virtual brain in For Students, but a drawing here would make the article summary comprehendible.

    The right prefrontal cortex was active for both recognition and recall. This part of the brain is important for attempting to recover information in memory and is activated in all memory attempts, regardless of the success of the attempt. Similarly the anterior cingulate area was active for both memory tasks. The anterior cingulate cortex has been implicated in the initiation of many types of human behavior.

    One brain area was more active during recognition than recall. The right inferior parietal cortex, which is important for perceptual processing was activated during recognition. Cabeza et al. argued that this area should be active if recognition involves comparing the presented word, such as piano, with perceptual information from the study phase, such as whether the physical stimulus, piano, was seen during the study phase.

    Four brain areas were more active during recall than during recognition. Although the anterior cingulate area was activated in both memory tasks, it was more active during recall. Cabeza et al. speculated that this is because recall involves more initiation of activity to generate a response.

    Three additional brain areas were more active during recall than recognition. These were the left cerebellum, the right thalamus area, and the right globus palladius. These three brain areas, along with the right prefrontal cortex, form a cognitive cerebello-thalamo-cortical pathway that has recently been traced out in the brain. Cabeza et al. conclude that the pathway that goes from the left cerebellum to the right frontal cortex is important for recall of episodic memory, such as the words in their paired associate task.

    Cabeza et al. identified more brain areas that were important for recognition and recall than have been found with lesion studies. They concluded that lesion studies and neuroimaging studies complement each other and need to be integrated in cognitive neuroscience investigations of memory. In addition, they concluded that, since fewer brain areas are activated by recognition than recall, that recognition is indeed easier than recall.

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