AUD EXAM experience – 2017 Q1
February 1, 2017 at 6:37 pm #1452057
This topic was started a while back ago by another poster but kinda “died”
I had my exam today (2/01) for audit and just wanted to see what others experience was during Q1 2017 ?
I took it for for the second time today after a 64 FAIL back in DEC 2016. I used Roger only back in DEC, but this time just did NINJA notes and Wiley Test Bank.
My experience today was mixed. The 1st testlet was super EASY. 2nd testlet was moderate with a few difficult questions. Flagged like 4. 3rd testlet was similar to 2nd testlet. Not sure if i got a Medium Hard Hard , or Medium Hard Medium.
The SIMS on the other hand was a mixed experience. The research was easy but took like 12 mins to answer. I got 2 DRS…1 was insanely hard, and 1 was manageable/moderate. The other ones were moderate but still had some guesses.
In a nutshell feel good about the MCQs but the SIMS not so sure. I felt similar on my 1st AUD exam where I got a 64 but this time I feel better about MCQ but not sure about SIMS. It it me or do are the SIMS just always difficult overall. I never get an easy SIM except research.
Can one pass if you get comparable in MCQ and Weaker in SIMS ?
just wanted to see what other people thought. I guess we all find out FEB 24?February 2, 2017 at 9:28 am #1452360
I also took AUD in Dec 2016 and I literally sped through the MCQs cause I was so worried about the SIMS. I ended up scoring better in the sims better than I did on the MCQ, I ended up with a 70. I retook AUD on 1/22 and felt good with the MCQ cause I took my time with them, but the SIMS were two times harder than the first time around so I really doubt I passed. I feel your pain the SIMS are just so hit or miss, if I had the MCQ's from the second take and SIMS from the first take I'd feel more confident that I passed. Until 2/22 I will be hoping I don't have to take AUD but I won't be surprised if I have to. Onward to REG 3/9 🙂February 2, 2017 at 11:32 am #1452416
I also took Audit in Dec 2016 and then had my retake last Friday the 27th. I thought the first testlet was probably Medium difficulty, most questions were easy but there were a couple I flagged to go back to.
The next one kicked my butt. I flagged 3 or 4, felt completely dejected the entire time. So many questions from out of nowhere! Really specific questions on what constitutes an emphasis-of-matter paragraph…I never really studied the differences between that and the Other Matters paragraph.
The third testlet was as difficult as the second one but I “felt” more prepared for the absurdity of the questions. There were a couple of moments where I rested my head on the desk and thought “You have no business being here.”
My SIMS were kinda out there as well. A lot of ratio analysis, which kind of surprised me but really it shouldn't have. My exam in December was heavy on the Inherent/Control risk so it's not surprising I would get 5 out 7 testlets that were all focused on ratio's. Some were calculations, some were “If X happens, what does it do to Y.” The AL questions was a piece of cake and the DRS was easy to find in the AL.
All-in-all, I felt terrible after taking the exam. The entire time I sat there staring at some of the questions not having a clue what was going on. I was so dejected afterward.
Now I'm studying for REG which is almost like a breath of fresh air after all that Auditing nonsense.February 2, 2017 at 11:40 am #1452431
@Vee Yup I had the same experience as you when it comes to the SIMS from first take to second take. My emphasis for restudying was pounding MCQS I didn't really focus on SIMS too much cause I did very well on them first takeFebruary 2, 2017 at 11:57 am #1452456
@vee I feel you would pass because your difficulties levels were seems MHH which is really good sign.As you just finished BEC I am guessing ratios formulas must have been fresh in your mind and that would have helped.As you mentioned more questions were having ratios or related interpretation better you might have done.I am surprised how they given 7 questions on Ratios.
You may check even the guys who got 99 in AUD has confirmed that he had some wrong questions too. 100% correct is not need to get 75.Cheers.February 2, 2017 at 12:00 pm #1452461
@andrewe how did you do in SIMs ? Did Ratios tripped you too or DRS was too much ?February 2, 2017 at 12:01 pm #1452464
I took Audit for the second time on 1/14. First time, I was stronger in the MCQ and weaker in SIMS. I think the first go around, I was going a little too quickly through the testlets. I finished almost an hour early and honestly, I felt pretty good about the test that time. I was devastated when I received a score of 67. In between my first and second attempt at AUD, I studied for and passed FAR. I think studying FAR helped me with studying for my AUD retake.
So back to 1/14 and my retake… because I went quickly the first time, I really tried to slow it down and take my time on each testlet… read questions fully and all answer choices. I felt the MCQ testlets were more difficult than the first time, but overall think that I did well. I think that taking my time helped the most going through the SIMS. I gave myself around 2 hours to complete the SIMS and I used just about every min…. searching the AL for anything I was even slightly unsure on. The AL is sometimes tough to navigate but I felt that it was very useful and I didn’t use it very much the first time. I hope that using the AL and taking my time is the difference for me this time!February 2, 2017 at 12:03 pm #1452471
@Nath DRS was too much, the ratios I did what I could with them I understand how they work and everything. Like Vee I had taken BEC prior to AUD and passed with a 77.February 2, 2017 at 2:52 pm #1452630
Vee- I think we had the same exam in Q1 and possibly q4. I think on every exam I take there is a moment “should I really be doing this” b/c some of the questions can be tricky
Andrew- I think we had a similar experience.
I did have a LOT of Ratio Analysis on my SIMS. 2 sims at least had it.
Does anyone know if 1) if you can get a 75+ with a weaker in SIMS and comparable in MCQ ? and 2) if you get 2 DRS does it mean possibly 1 is thrown out (not graded) ? 3) Is the reasearch ever thrown out ? I would hate if that is the case
thanksFebruary 2, 2017 at 2:58 pm #1452632
I am not sure if this works in our favor or against us but AUDIT had the second worst passing rate in 2016 (cumulative) –just released last week. FAR had the worst passing rate. I wonder if AICPA going to try to make it more “passable” for a lack of better word for 2017.
I hope we all pass. taking it in may and waiting til mid august is next to a nightmareFebruary 6, 2017 at 9:12 am #1454743
@Nath I had 7 SIMS and 5 of them were all somehow related to ration analysis. Some were actual calculations and analysis while others were just “If (fill in the blank account) is overstated by (random dollar amount), how does it affect the following ratio?” Then it gave me three different ratios like the quick ratio. It either increased it, decreased it, or didn't affect it at all. It was almost identical to a SIM I had in December except the it was the affect on Inherent or Control Risk. I had a DRS SIM that was super easy because I was able to find an example of what it should be in the AL. And then the research question, I found the exact wording so that one should be okay.
@shawn in VA it's my understanding that the Research Question is never the “practice” SIM, so that one shouldn't be thrown out. However, if you get two DRS I believe both could be fair game. Becker has stated that if you get two Research Questions then one of them is Practice and will be thrown out but you don't know which one.
All I know is that February 23 can't get here fast enough.February 6, 2017 at 9:32 am #1454757
I really hope we all passed because I am not sure how we will study for a 3rd take >:(. 2/23 where are you now?February 6, 2017 at 10:52 am #1454806
Andrew- 3rd retake would be horrific . The studying would be bad, but the worst of all would be waiting until mid august for score release. I really have not came across ANYONE saying AUD was easy this window. maybe that will help us.
I just can't believe how easy my 1st testlet was and then 2nd and 3rd were H-M, or H-H, respectively. The SIMS in my expereince are always difficult. This time I can say I got research right b/c my 1st one I dont think I didFebruary 6, 2017 at 10:56 am #1454809
@Vee thank you so much.February 6, 2017 at 11:39 am #1454844
Took AUD on 1/13 and felt testlets went Med – Hard – Hard based on how many I had to flag each testlet. SIMS were manageable and felt more confident this time around than previous test probably because I had more time to use AL and check my work. There were a few questions I went and looked up after exam and got wrong so I am praying these are pretest but who knows. Today is going to be tough not to think about it all day. I can't imagine having to retake in Q2 and waiting till AugFebruary 6, 2017 at 11:56 am #1454854
I took AUD on 1/18. The multiple choice questions were what I expected. Almost feel like some of the questions were identical to the homework questions or some were just simply rephrased. The SIM however was a different story. I have no idea how I did on the SIM. I had 2 hours left for SIM so thought I would have more than enough time but research question took me 30mins. I have always struggled with this part. I would have to say no amount of study would have prepared me for some of the SIM questions. I hope I pass bc I cant imagine having to study for AUID again. It was excruciating boring.February 6, 2017 at 12:02 pm #1454860
@Vee I have a feeling you will pass this time with more then 80.February 6, 2017 at 4:11 pm #1457851
I took AUD this past Saturday morning. I've taken AUD twice before a few years ago and got a 72 and a 68.
I studied a lot more this time around and felt pretty good about the MC testlets. Honestly out of the 90 I guessed on maybe 6 so overall, I feel great about that part.
The SIMs I had to really think about. I was able to use the AL on one of them and the research one wasn't so bad. The others I'm not sure on. Of course I felt the same way after FAR and got a 79 so I'm hoping that's a good sign. February 28th cannot come fast enough. I really wanna move on to REG.February 6, 2017 at 4:51 pm #1459956
I actually started a similar thread early Jan but it was deleted by Jeff. It was somehow mistaken for a study group and was consolidated. Glad you started this thread again. I think this thread would be helpful for those who are currently studying and do not want to read through multiple thread to get an idea of how the most recent exam is like.
I'll be sharing my score and experience as soon I get my score. I'm so nervous right now and can't seem to study. My mind is all over the place.February 6, 2017 at 7:48 pm #1463835
Just returned from the exam. Guys, the AUD is not so awful. Do not know if I passed or not, of course, but there was nothing extraordinary. But you have to be familiar with most topics (not necessarily too deep). And understanding accounting is a MUST.February 6, 2017 at 11:44 pm #1472121
I saw a similar thread a few weeks ago, most everyone was mentioning how terrible it was. This thread's experience isn't as bad. I took AUD 1/27 and I felt pretty confident going in. MCQs got harder as I went on and I didn't kill it on those but I don't think they were my usual demise. I feel like based on the general experience I may have lucked on out SIMS as mine felt like just general application of the material. I've seen the far out SIMS across all other sections and I felt like mine were fair. I hate the phrase people say “if you think you passed you failed” because 1) that won't apply to me here, I feel positive and 2) I've actually never experienced that. I have actually predicted my score ~2 points each time, and I'm going on 8 or 10 attempts here. I always know when I fail. Anyone else?
Hate having to wait til 2/23. Will report back in case anyone is curious. Or maybe see ya'll in the I Passed AUD thread – I friggin HOPE!February 7, 2017 at 12:01 am #1472127
@CPA788 I think I also lucked out with the SIMS I got because I felt they were very manageable and I felt more confident walking out of the exam this time compared to my first two attempts at AUD. There is just such an empty feeling until you open that score up and see it with your own eyes.February 7, 2017 at 12:13 am #1472133
@cruzer – don't I know it. The people in the score release thread that take a sleeping pill before score release have the right idea. While I can feel positive, I am almost in panic-tears every time I check a score. Here's to a 75 for all of us.February 7, 2017 at 8:08 pm #1473456
I passed with 87. Spent 150 hours of study. Did Becker's homework questions and SIM twice and some three times. Went over the lectures as well. I was overly paranoid about this exam bc of the low pass rate. To be quite honest, you only need to put in 80 to 100 hours if time is an issue. I overdid it bc I was paranoid after having read all the horror stories on here. Better to be safe than sorry I guess.February 7, 2017 at 10:59 pm #1473624
I sat for AUD yesterday, 2/6/2017. The first testlet was straight forward. It seemed the difficulty spiked from testlet two-three. The phrasing of the questions and answers were definitely designed to lead one astray. And, there were two questions that were just absolutely ridiculous! I did not encounter the topics in my review materials AT ALL. I don't even remember what they were, they were so outrageous.
I finished the MCQ ahead of schedule and took the opportunity to answer nature's call before SIMS.
Started SIMs ahead of schedule. There were seven problems, one of which was research. It took me a good long while to find the answer to that one. The document review was hopeless. It was all about reviewing working papers replete with ticks and ties and determining the appropriate items for an internal communication. It was misery. Four out of the seven seemed like they were asked beyond the context of planet earth.
I finished with time to spare. I revisited the challenging ones, but came to the conclusion that my initial answer was a guess and that changing the answer would be just another guess, so I let it go, and pressed the button to submit. The fact that I was super hungry, I'm sure, didn't help. (Note to self: two miniature oranges and a banana is not sufficient fuel for a four hour exam.) I'm now chagrined that I didn't use the authoritative literature! I forget about that tool.
I feel optimistic about my performance and prescribe to CPA788's philosophy of staying positive – although FAR challenged that allegiance. I will become a licensed CPA. The number of times I have to take a section or how long it takes is inconsequential. That is true for all of us.
My very best wishes to all who are reading this forum. We can do it.
FAR: 80 (10/28/2016)
AUD: DSD (Dragon Slayer Deployed) (2/6/2017)
REG: DSIT (Dragon Slayer in Training) (5/2017)
BEC: DSIW (Dragon Slayer in Waiting) (7/2017)February 7, 2017 at 11:30 pm #1473671
Taking Audit 2/17 and if I pass I'll finally be done. Feeling alright about this one so far-definitely ready to finish this beast.February 8, 2017 at 11:46 am #1474011
@floreat I am sure you passed. Your experience sounded similar to mine when I re-took AUD on 1/13 and found out yesterday I scored an 81. I must have crushed the SIMS because my average was only 72% in NINJA MCQ.
Can you share your FAR study techniques and how you crushed it with an 80?February 8, 2017 at 8:27 pm #1474471
Hi Cruzer – thanks for the positivity regarding AUD. And congratulations on passing!
I think I passed FAR because I made it my top priority. Everything else in my life played second fiddle to FAR. I used Gleim Premium and worked FAR like it was a job for 3.5 months. I studied on average six hours a day almost everyday. There were a couple of weekends where I only studied a couple of hours. But mostly I would study, study, study, eat, study, study, eat, take a shower, study, stare into space and then study more. I got on Youtube for help with DEPS, DTA/DTL and LIFO with layers. I did practice MCQ's over and over and over and over again. I took my flash cards to bed with me and dreamed of multiple choice questions all night. I even did research on how the brain approaches studying and employed some techniques to trick myself (eg; studying in different rooms, always ending a session with a topic I knew to boost my confidence, walking away from study materials every hour or so to “reset” my brain and yes – reviewing material right before I fell asleep to jump start my subconscious.) Equally important as the work was staying positive. And trust me, that was not always easy to do.
All of the above was probably overkill, but I think it was the best approach considering it's been so long since I've been in school and that I had no practical experience with many of the topics like inventory, DEPS, deferred taxes or OCI. (Most of my work has been in the NFP sector.)
My advice for FAR is to make it your priority. Do as many MCQ's as you can. And always study cumulatively – meaning if you're on study unit 8, throw in random MCQ's from prior study units. Since SIMs are a challenge for most of us, I also recommend doing as many practice SIMS as you can. Build it into your plan that you do a practice SIM every other day or so. Also, if possible give yourself more than the standard 1:45 to complete them all on test day. Sometimes the first three testlets won't allow for that, but if you can swing it, do so. Flash cards can be really helpful. I suggest using them for all the ratios and formulas and review them daily until you've committed them to memory.
Basically study until your brain shuts down, then go do something unrelated for 20-30 minutes, come back and study more. Repeat every day, several times a day if necessary and you will get to a place of “comfort” with the topics. After each chapter, I asked myself, “If the entire exam was only on this chapter, would I pass?” If the answer was no, I knew there was more work to do. The only exception was employee benefits because of pension accounting. I'm still at a loss with most of that that business. If I remember correctly, there were two conceptual pension questions on my test, so I guess I got lucky. Also, I memorized the ratios and didn't get one single question on them. Go figure.
You will pass, Cruzer!
FAR: 80 (10/28/2016)
AUD: DSD (Dragon Slayer Deployed) (2/6/2017)
REG: DSIT (Dragon Slayer in Training) (5/2017)
BEC: DSIW (Dragon Slayer in Waiting) (7/2017)February 8, 2017 at 10:15 pm #1474570
I left the exam last month feeling great which scared me to death! I was right for feeling great because I found out yesterday…84!!! Finished!February 8, 2017 at 10:19 pm #1474584
Floreat – congrats on the pass of FAR. I hear it is difficult.
Not to sound mean but if my math is right you put in 600 hours approx. into ONE part of the exam ? Roger Phillips CPA and the AICPA recommend 500 hours for the ENTIRE CPA exam —4 parts.
I would hope one would pass if dedicating that kind of time.
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