ERO/Third Party Tax Return PINs

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  • #2723136
    Matt
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    Hello Folks,

    I hope the studying is going well! Keep at it!

    For those who are prepares or third party designee, I would like to know how to obtain a PIN number.

    Most things I have read (googled) say it is just a random number you create, other places say you need to register with the IRS and fill out an application. Please assist with how to obtain these pins.

    Thank you!

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    Recked
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    I just started using one on tax returns. I am not aware of any registry for a PIN#.
    The EFIN and PTIN are a different story.

    Memento Mori - Kingston NY CPA & EA (SUNY Albany 2002)

    FAR-93 11/9/17 (10wks, 250 hrs, Roger 1800+ MCQs, Gleim TB 600+MCQs, SIMs)
    AUD-88 12/7/17 (3 wks, 85 hrs, Roger 1000 MCQs no SIMs hail mary)
    REG-96 1/18/18 (6 wks, 110 hrs, 1400 MCQs, no SIMs)
    BEC-91 2/16/18 (4wks, 90 hrs, 1240 MCQs)

    #2723322
    Matt
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    Recked, thank you for answering. I have a PTIN and CAF number. I thought the EFIN is at the firm level, vs. the person who is the signer. I have looked at the 8879s for example, and it appears that the EFIN/PIN is the EFIN (firm level pin) and the prepare pin (self selected).

    If the firm I work for already has an established EFIN, then I just create pin#s for both the third party and ERO signatures, correct? I am glad you responded as I know from your posts, you deal a lot with tax.

    #2723421
    Recked
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    Yes, EFIN is the firm level. The firm where I am employed has an EFIN, and I also have my own EFIN for my own business.
    The ERO/client pin you can just use any number unless the client specifies.
    Your preparer PIN#, you can also use anything, just make sure its consistent.

    I am not sure the preparer PIN actually does anything. I have left my boss's PIN on a return that I was listed as the preparer on and there have never been any rejects or errors.
    Pick 5 digits and you're all set.
    I have also never had anyone ever ask me to confirm the PIN when calling the IRS or state. Maybe because I have a PTIN and CAF, and usually have POA on anything I need to call about.
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    Short answer, yes to your question.

    Memento Mori - Kingston NY CPA & EA (SUNY Albany 2002)

    FAR-93 11/9/17 (10wks, 250 hrs, Roger 1800+ MCQs, Gleim TB 600+MCQs, SIMs)
    AUD-88 12/7/17 (3 wks, 85 hrs, Roger 1000 MCQs no SIMs hail mary)
    REG-96 1/18/18 (6 wks, 110 hrs, 1400 MCQs, no SIMs)
    BEC-91 2/16/18 (4wks, 90 hrs, 1240 MCQs)

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