Is the NINJA MCQ package sufficient to pass FAR?

  • Creator
    Topic
  • #194716
    jairvin3
    Participant

    NINJA Question –

    I recently posted looking for advice and explained my situation. Long story short-I have failed FAR now three times-each of the attempts I studied using Becker and completed the entire course in its entirety (3 separate times).

    I needed to make a change, because I feel like part of the reason I failed is due to using the same material, over and over again and more likely than not, memorizing the material. Each of the 3 attempts, my scores were 70/72/70, so there are still some areas that need improvement.

    Is the NINJA MCQ package sufficient to pass FAR using it solo? I have been using it to do MCQ’s at night during the week, than on the weekend, I have been doing progress self-tests in Becker just to throw in some variety. My reason for questioning NINJA is there seems to be quite a bit of brief, one sentence, word questions rather than complex calculations. I just want to make sure that the material I am studying will push me past that barrier I have reached with Becker.

    Any thoughts are appreciated.

    Thanks

Viewing 15 replies - 1 through 15 (of 15 total)
  • Author
    Replies
  • #681591
    Tcohle
    Participant

    I don't have Becker, but I have Wiley and I pretty much abandoned Wiley MCQ test bank for Ninja. I'll do Wiley every once in a while to mix it up. I passed FAR on the first try

    AUD - 84
    BEC - 75
    FAR - 76
    REG - 87
    Ninja Notes/MCQ/Book/Audio for all

    FAR- 5/11/15 76!!
    AUD-10/31/15 63, 84!
    REG-7/12/16 72
    BEC-8/31/15 75!! Perfect Score!

    Wiley CPAExcel Platinum
    Ninja 10 pt combo for FAR/AUD/BEC

    #681592
    EuroAddict
    Participant

    I personally don't feel the NINJA MCQ could be used just by itself and one would pass. Use it as a supplement to study material, like your becker.

    I noticed the same thing you did, ninja was more wording questions and answers while becker gives you more calculation type questions.

    -----------------------------
    BEC - 77, 03/2015 (first try)
    FAR - 79, 05/2015 (second try)
    REG - 83, 12/2015 (first try)
    AUD - 84, 03/2015 (first try)

    I got 99 problems but the CPA ain't one.

    #681593
    MonkeyVA
    Member

    I used Becker only for all of the tests, but it didn't cut it for FAR. I failed 4 times. I used Ninja MCQ only on my final try and passed. I think it helped put me over the edge.

    AUD - 77!!!
    FAR - 71, 73, 72, 73, 77!!! DONE!
    BEC - 75!
    REG - 75!

    #681594
    jeff
    Keymaster

    It's all in how much of NINJA MCQ you use…people who hit the review phase and are trending in the 80s have a high pass rate (85-90%).

    So – if you've done all of the questions and you're scoring well (mid-80s) – you stand a very good chance at passing.

    If the question is whether or not you *learn* the material through NINJA MCQ alone, well that might be a different story…some people feel like they need videos…some people need a book…some people just need MCQ…everyone is different.

    I don't believe NINJA has any less AICPA-released questions than any other comparable product. Other companies might load theirs with instructor-authrored or CMA/CIA/EA etc, but with the AICPA-licensed content, NINJA has as much or more content.

    AUD - 79
    BEC - 80
    FAR - 76
    REG - 92
    Jeff Elliott, CPA (KS)
    NINJA CPA | NINJA CMA | NINJA CPE | Another71
    #681595
    jairvin3
    Participant

    Thanks for the insight, Jeff. I am definitely the type of person that needs to hammer out MCQ. The videos and the book didn't do much for me. The bottom line is, if you keep doing the same thing you'll get the same result. I haven't even hit the adaptive learning phase just yet (almost there as my work life/family life is getting crazier by the minute) but I definitely feel like once I get there, it will help me drill down on the things I need more work on.

    #681596
    TempiB
    Member

    Tcohle – I am using Wiley CPA Excel also and I am completely overwhelmed with the FAR material and bogged down. I am considering ditching it and buying the 10 pt combo for FAR, using this study method and then using CPA Excel for supplemental exam and TBS questions. Would love to hear your thoughts on this since you are also using CPA Excel.

    I passed AUD (two tries) and REG (first time) using CPA Excel but I wasn't on a tight time limit for those exams and I studied a long time for both. I took AUD in late November and REG in late April. I'm just now really gearing up studying for FAR. I need to take FAR in August and pass the first time. I'm not sure I can get through all the CPA Excel material by then and be ready for the exam. That is why I am considering the switch. It seems that Jeff's approach is more direct and might help me cut through the material faster.

    Advice would be appreciated. Should I change horses midstream and use the 10 pt combo (or even just the mcqs and notes) or stick with CPA Excel, dig in and crank it out?

    AUD 65 4/14, 93 11/8/14
    REG 82 4/30/15
    FAR 79 8/27/15
    BEC 60 5/14

    #681597
    jeff
    Keymaster

    This video may help you with switching over or simply blending the materials.

    https://www.another71.com/cpa-exam-study-plan/

    AUD - 79
    BEC - 80
    FAR - 76
    REG - 92
    Jeff Elliott, CPA (KS)
    NINJA CPA | NINJA CMA | NINJA CPE | Another71
    #681598
    Tcohle
    Participant

    Tempi to be 100% honest, I did a mix of a lot of different strategies. The ends justify the means. I started out reading the Wiley book because that's what I did in college. Then I decided that it was so lengthy and it was driving me crazy. So I ended up doing every section in Wiley by reading the powerpoints and just “getting through” the material. After that I crammed tons of Ninja mcq. I think I got to 5000. I was trending in the 80s and averaged in the 60s. Average was low because when I started I was learning by doing MCQ and got a lot wrong.

    I had the 10 pt combo, studied the ninja notes a lot and made some of my own notes, studied flashcards, and got out of the test barely alive with a 76. Who knows I could've gotten lucky, but going into the test I felt no anxiety. I had seen all my problems on the test before, it was a matter of just getting them right.

    In any program, FAR is overwhelming. If you're not overwhelmed either you're a genius or you're not studying enough.

    My advice is to ultimately do a ton of Ninja MCQs at minimum. Get the Ninja Notes too. And find a site that has every journal entry example for FAR, print it out, and understand them all.

    AUD - 84
    BEC - 75
    FAR - 76
    REG - 87
    Ninja Notes/MCQ/Book/Audio for all

    FAR- 5/11/15 76!!
    AUD-10/31/15 63, 84!
    REG-7/12/16 72
    BEC-8/31/15 75!! Perfect Score!

    Wiley CPAExcel Platinum
    Ninja 10 pt combo for FAR/AUD/BEC

    #681599
    TempiB
    Member

    Tcohle – How many hours total do you think you studied and over how long of a period of time. I am planning to take FAR at the end of August. If I take it on the 29th, then I basically have 77 days. If I study five hours a day every day (which is doable for me as long as I can keep myself from burning out or procrastinating), then that basically gives me 385 available hours to study. My work load is very light right now and my employer allows me to study at work when I don't have work. I have no excuses for not passing this thing the first time.

    I think I am going to just dig in and work through CPA Excel and then supplement with the Ninja MCQs and notes instead of purchasing the Wiley test bank. I can do the ninja mcqs and notes for less than Wiley will charge me for the FAR test bank and I have heard the ninja mcqs are harder than the ones in the wiley test bank. Not sure how true that is but we'll see.

    Thanks for the feedback. Appreciate it!

    AUD 65 4/14, 93 11/8/14
    REG 82 4/30/15
    FAR 79 8/27/15
    BEC 60 5/14

    #681600
    jgmart04
    Participant

    i remember seeing a listing of the NINJA TBS broken out in a table of contents. In other words, what each TBS question covers… I cant seem to find it. Anyone have a link to the thread Jeff posted a while back?

    Thanks in advance

    #681601
    Anonymous
    Inactive
    #681602
    jgmart04
    Participant

    thanks!

    #681603
    Tncincy
    Participant

    I am attempting far after reg and I was wondering the same thing,

    It begins with a 75
    Been here too long as a cheerleader.....time to pass

    It begins with a 75
    Been here too long as a cheerleader....ready to pass

    #681604
    confusedcandidate
    Participant

    I passed FAR almost exclusively with the $50 ninja test bank.

    I took Int I, Int II, and Gov in college. Didn't take Int III Consolidations and my Gov class was a joke. I started studying FAR a few months after Int II. I pretty much just pounded MCQs like a fratboy pounding shots of Jaeger. I read explanations, formulas, etc when I got questions wrong. Printed out TONS of equations and examples and taped them to my office wall – my wall looked like John Nash's wall in Beautiful Mind, you know, with the lines connecting everything and insane messages and notes everywhere.

    https://zuts.files.wordpress.com/2013/09/a-beautiful-mind-nashs-office.jpg

    Anyway I just hit MCQs all day for a few months and passed with a 77. I never learned a damn thing about Government. I still don't know what an encumbrance is. I'm pretty sure I got close to 100% of everything else right and close to 0% on the gov stuff.

    The ONLY supplemental material I used was Roger's Audio review which I listened to during a 24 hour road trip – twelve hours there and twelve hours back. I had the Ninja notes and review book but let's be honest, I barely opened it.

    YMMV

    Weekends are meaningless to a CPA candidate

    #681605
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    “Long story short-I have failed FAR now three times-each of the attempts I studied using Becker and completed the entire course in its entirety (3 separate times).”

    Becker is definitely enough to pass “solo”. But maybe your problem is you are trying to do it all. Watching all of the lectures and reading the book again and again and again is a waste of time tbh.

    “Is the NINJA MCQ package sufficient to pass FAR using it solo?”

    Well, you wouldn't be using it solo, would you? You'd be building upon the knowledge you already have thru Becker. But trying a different provider that asks the questions in a different way could push you to where you need to be.

    “I have been using it to do MCQ's at night during the week, than on the weekend,”

    Good Good. Sounds like you are working while trying to study and pass (which makes passing harder – and makes the fact that you went through the entire BECKER materials lectures and text and everything three times insane). How much study time are you able to put in? and how long is your study period? Generally you don't want it to be too long or you'll forget the stuff you went over in the first half of the book.

    “I have been doing progress self-tests in Becker just to throw in some variety.”

    IMO this is the best use of your time. Don't re-read the whole book, don't re-watch all the lectures –> JUST do the progress tests. The progress tests are Becker's best feature and the mix of questions you get in each test (pro-rated by what they think are most likely to be tested) is super helpful so that the last couple chapters are not the only ones sticking in your mind. Your entire review phase of 1 1/2 to 2 weeks should be almost exclusively focused on Becker progress tests. And when you get a question wrong, UNDERSTAND why. The software will link you directly to part in the book and the portion of the lecture that talked about it. Use this tool.

    My guess, is I doubt it is the review course's fault but more likely you are spreading yourself thin with work and are unable to really study as much as you need to within a period of time that will allow you to retain it. Some people are able to study and work at the same time but not everyone can successfully do this, it takes studying smart (INCREDIBLY important and something that a lot of accountant are terrible at because they want to cover and understand everything 100%), time management and prioritization and even then it will be very difficult for a lot of people.

Viewing 15 replies - 1 through 15 (of 15 total)
  • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.