Really need help with FAR

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  • #1632118
    IwannabeaCPA2017
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    I probably have asked this many time but Im really fed up with retaking FAR again. I honestly dont know what I could do to raise my score; my scores dropped 5 points compared to my last try. I honestly dont want to go into busy season in January with 2 parts to retake and potentially have REG drop too in March 2018. All of this would be a nightmare.. BS aside, anyone can really tell me how they did and raise their scores (trying to go from 59 to 75)??

    My past study strategy: Go through all Becker MCQ/SIMS. Do set 30 MCQ 1-3 then slowly add 1 chapter on to review material. After all chaps covered I’d use Ninja MCQ solely. Mixed in with Ninja SIMS. Didnt take any practice exam.. Probably why I’m failing, since I did for the other 3 sections. Any correlation?

    I appreciate any help. I just really wanna get this over with and have my life back during the holidays.

    BEC- PASS (Expiring in DEC 2017)

    REG- PASS (Expiring Feb 2018)

    AUD- PASS (Expiring Oct 2018)

    FAR- 65, 60, 59, 77!!! -GOD BLESS

    If I can do it, anyone can do it!

     

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  • #1632553
    imsotiffanyy
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    Have you ever done the AICPA released questions? My test strategy was to always do those right before my exams to really get me to know the way they phase their questions and LIVE AND BREATHE AICPA.

    I never had the time to finish all the practice questions from Rogers because I'm lazy and those AICPA released questions always saved my butt. Its really good practice and they also rate the difficulty level for you which is really nice (Roger doesn't have that for us, which kind of sucks).

    They currently have 3 exams out which is around a good 150 MCQs and 6-8 SIMS that cover a good range of topics from the exams.

    Never say never.

    Aud - 78 - 8/29/2017

    Bec - 85 - 2/11/2017

    Far - 85 - 11/29/2016

    Reg - 82 - 1/14/2017

    #1632569
    IwannabeaCPA2017
    Participant

    Have not. I will take a look at those later this week when I start studying again. Thanks Tiffany! COngrats on being done!!

    BEC- PASS (Expiring in DEC 2017)

    REG- PASS (Expiring Feb 2018)

    AUD- PASS (Expiring Oct 2018)

    FAR- 65, 60, 59, 77!!! -GOD BLESS

    If I can do it, anyone can do it!

     

    #1632655
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I went from a 59 last October to a 77 in May. My advice would be to really understand journal entries, which you probably already know. But I had sheets and sheets of journal entries written out and additional cheat sheets of formulas and walkthroughs (i.e. arriving at gross profit in installment sales, how to calculate bond amortization, etc). Any time I had an MCQ that involved in a single calculation, I wrote it all out in journal entry form so I could see how it would hit the financial statements and / or wrote out the formula and walked myself through it to really make sure I got it.

    Now… tell me how you passed REG haha.

    #1632670
    IwannabeaCPA2017
    Participant

    Haha Thanks Curly.. I think my biggest issue was the SIMS, Which we can never really practice except knowing the concepts. For REG I think its because of my work. I failed the 1st time and retook it 2 months after. I did more SIMS (all of Ninja SIMS tbh) and hit the MCQ hard the 2nd time. That was what worked.. Honestly, if you can pass FAR then REG would not be a trouble. What area are you struggling with?

    BEC- PASS (Expiring in DEC 2017)

    REG- PASS (Expiring Feb 2018)

    AUD- PASS (Expiring Oct 2018)

    FAR- 65, 60, 59, 77!!! -GOD BLESS

    If I can do it, anyone can do it!

     

    #1632685
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Are you reading the book, taking notes? I feel like that might be the missing piece…MCQ start repeating themselves no matter which bank you use, but the key is to really understand the concepts…I usually, listen to lecture, then go through the book, make notes and do all MCQ in each module until I get 90-100% before moving onto the next section. Sometimes I read book/take notes/do MCQ simultaneously. I try to do SIMS as I go as well.. Leaving some for review phase this time. After I am done with Becker I jump into Ninja.

    #1632689
    QueenCPA
    Participant

    I agree with the above!

    Review the AICPA Sample SIMS! I had two sims that were almost identical on the real exam. Those 2 sims plus research and a few points on the others made me passs!

    Since you know Sims are your weakness, pay attention to the sample questions on the AICPA website and newly released 2017 sims.

     

    "And may the Lord our God show us his approval and make our efforts successful .Yes, make our efforts successful"

    Amen 🙂

    #1632719
    IwannabeaCPA2017
    Participant

    Thanks guy! I will def use those AICPA questions this time. @anyatver, I did read the book 2x (1st and 2nd attempt) but I skim through them on my previous attempt I felt like at that point I just review the concept and went right into the MCQ. Think that was a bad choice. Will def read the book page by page this time. For the SIMS I had many documents on the exam and I think I really got nervous seeing so much info and not sure where to start; well the exam def isn't getting any easier.. Really appreciate the input.

    BEC- PASS (Expiring in DEC 2017)

    REG- PASS (Expiring Feb 2018)

    AUD- PASS (Expiring Oct 2018)

    FAR- 65, 60, 59, 77!!! -GOD BLESS

    If I can do it, anyone can do it!

     

    #1632734
    CPAcandidate3
    Participant

    I agree on doing or at least looking at the AICPA released SIMs. From my experience the style of the sims will usually correlate to a couple of the SIMs on the actual test. For FAR one the biggest things is understanding how the different types of transactions/JEs affect the balance sheet and the income statement.

    AUD - 83
    BEC - 82
    FAR - 86
    REG - 82
    Rogers + NINJA MCQ
    #1632749

    I am on the same boat, quite new in this forum. So, I research ‘threads' like this one:
    https://www.another71.com/cpa-exam-forum/forum/far/far-exam-experience/
    It is helping me so far, as to my study habits, and how to improve my test-taking skills.

    I took 2017 Q1 and Q3, 4 sections each, to learn what's in these exams (don't recommend it though, too expensive). I was hoping to at least pass one section, get my motivation back.

    With FAR, you have to do a lot of calculation problems. My 2017 Q1 & Q3 FAR exams, were 50%+ and 80%+ MCQs calculation questions, respectively. By the time I got to my Q3 FAR SIMs you I ran out of time. You need at least 2-2.5hrs for the new FAR SIMs.

    Reading my FAR/REG/BEC Becker Textbook (2008 edition) for 1-2 days apart in 10 days span is ‘not to recommended' to others. I love to read, and not so much into calculations. Thus, I always struggle.

    My 2017 Q1 & Q3 exams were more of experiment for me. Only wish to pass one section, so failing the others is more like an experience for me.

    I am taking FAR next. Good luck to us.

    AUD - 49
    BEC - NINJA in Training
    FAR - NINJA in Training
    REG - 55
    Passed: AUD (75%'08/77%'17), REG (76%'09) & BLaw(77%'99); highest on FAR (63%'11/'15) & BEC (63%'11). Credit Hours: USA(PH)-BCom'85(4yr-grandfathered); UBC-(DAP'02/'19); DC-(BBA-Acctg.'22-4th yr)=over 150 hrs credits
    #1632796
    Bluetoothray
    Participant

    Where do you find these AICPA sample sims? I only was able to take a mock AICPA exam where they gave me two testlets with 5 mcqs each and a single testlet with 5 sims. Only maybe 1 of the sims really applied to the actual exam.

    AUD - Passed

    BEC - Passed

    REG - Passed

    FAR - Passed

    CPA - VA

    #1632842

    Well, I don't know if this helps. But for SIMs, based on my 2017 Q1 and Q3 4 sections experiment, my strategy is, to read the whole textbook, and get comfortable with all the topics and illustrations. Also, do a lot of MCQs for speed calculations.

    AUD - 49
    BEC - NINJA in Training
    FAR - NINJA in Training
    REG - 55
    Passed: AUD (75%'08/77%'17), REG (76%'09) & BLaw(77%'99); highest on FAR (63%'11/'15) & BEC (63%'11). Credit Hours: USA(PH)-BCom'85(4yr-grandfathered); UBC-(DAP'02/'19); DC-(BBA-Acctg.'22-4th yr)=over 150 hrs credits
    #1633060
    hlim95
    Participant

    I passed on my first try, but I'll just put here what I did to pass, hopefully it will be somewhat useful to you. I started actually studying for the FAR exam a month before I took it. About 2-3 hours for 5 days the first week, then 4-5 hours for 5 days the second week, then 6-8 hours for 5 days the third week, and then 8 hours for about 6 days of the last week. These hours are usually with minimum distractions (either at a library, home, or when I'm in class, but completely zoning out the professor).

    The first week, I read and took notes for Statement of Cash Flows in the Conceptual Framework and Financial Reporting section and the whole Select Financial Statement Accounts section. For the Select Transaction, I skimmed and took notes on Revenue Recognition, Employee/Retiree Benefit Plans, Income Taxes, and Leases. Personally, I completely just skipped everything that I learned in Financial 3 (Business Combinations, Consolidations, Foreign Currency Denominated Transactions). I found that the Business Combinations and Foreign Currency were barely tested in the CPA exam. If they were, they were just very basic and were nothing compared to what I had to know in my undergraduate accounting courses. That is why I essentially just skipped those chapters when I was studying. I also just spent about 1-2 hours just trying to learn the most important IFRS differences.

    Then, in the next three weeks, all I did was do multiple choice questions and try to understand questions that you do get wrong. I spent about 2-3 hours on SIMs because I found the practice SIMs to be a little bit too easy and that the actual exam was definitely not going to be that easy (turned out to be true). Therefore, I didn't want to waste my time with the practice SIMs and focused more on doing well in the MCQ.

    In those three weeks, I allocated about three days to just NFP and Government. I made sure that I knew everything about NFP (only 30 pages in the wiley textbook) and made sure I gotten every NFP question in NinjaMCQ correct. Governmental accounting was a lot more detailed in the wiley textbook, so I only ended up understanding the very basics of it, which I found was more than enough for the actual CPA exam. Try to do most of the questions that are in NinjaMCQ for government if you want. Just mastering NFP and knowing the basics of government should give you free 20% on the exam.

    My recommendation (things that I would do if I were to retake the FAR exam) is know the journal entries for bonds, leases, inventory, and PP&E. When I mean know the journal entries, I don't mean just memorizing what to debit/credit. Try your best to understand why this account is debited and why this account is credited. Also, know how to calculate the values for debits/credits I feel that if you know how to do the journal entries, you should be able to answer all of the MCQ related to these topics and be able to do most of the SIMs related to this topic. Know how to convert accrual to cash basis really well, and do a lot of practice for them. Also, have a good understanding of EPS and diluted EPS. And have a good understanding of everything in shareholder's equity. Know the equity method for significant influence. You should be spending a lot of time on everything here. For the other topics (IFRS, business combinations, foreign currency, FASB), I would just have a basic understanding and you should be fine.

    #1633211
    cpac
    Participant

    Hi hi – first off, good on you for continuing with this beast. I just passed after four tries and I know how tough it is.

    I know my major problem was government. The first test, I barely looked at it because it was difficult. Smart move, huh? Failed with a 65.

    Second time, I brushed up on all the basis financial data and still pretty much ignored government. Got a 73.

    Third time I said “I'm really going to make sure I know my government” I had just passed BEC so I was feeling confident. Didn't look over government. Failed with a 66.

    FOURTH TIME – Guess what I did?????? I STUDIED GOVERNMENT! Passed with an 83!

    I think the most important thing is to identify what you're “ignoring.” I made sure to not let my thoughts get in the way, like “Oh, I know enough”! Identify where you're struggling, make it a priority, and I am sure you will pass next time!! Good luck!

    Working hard...

    AUD: 74, 91 1/18

    BEC: 78 12/16

    FAR: 65, 73, 66, 83 8/17

    REG: 64, 80 1/18

    #1633243
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Just passed FAR with an 89. My strategy for every exam, passed all on first try, was to watch the video's for everything then go back and read over the lecture for things I had no clue what was going on. Then I would SLAM multiple choice questions for weeks before the exam. I used Wiley CPAexcel. I really would spend the most time doing MCQ, as that's how you become familiar with questions they are going to ask. Do not try to learn/memorize everything in the lectures.

    Also, get the Ninja Audio. The thing is amazing, I have a 45 minute commute and it helped get the basics for each section drilled in my brain.

    My study time was one hour during my lunch break, 1-1.5 hours directly after work before I went home for the day, then one hour before bed. Really helped break out my studying and keep everything fresh rather than one big sitting. Studying a few hours each day during the weekend.

    Big areas that you need to know I would say Govt/NFP/Bonds/Leases

    #1633391
    CPAcandidate3
    Participant

    @cpac

    Ignoring material is probably one of the more common reasons people fail. If you have at least a decent understanding of each section you have a great chance at passing.

    AUD - 83
    BEC - 82
    FAR - 86
    REG - 82
    Rogers + NINJA MCQ
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