February 11, 2018 at 11:09 am #1711247
The Gleim TB really excels at breaking down your weak areas.
Each of the 4 exam sections is broken down into 20 chapters, and each chapter is broken down into subunits, it can be from 2 to 10 subunits per chapter.
The test bank gives you numbers or graphs for each practice section, as well as cumulative totals.
I'm working on COSO right now for example, which has 2 subunits, COSO framework, and ERM. I can see from the graphs/performances reports that I am strong in the COSO framework, but weaker in the ERM, so I can either re-read the ERM framework subunit, or focus solely on ERM questions.
If you have the full online version you can go directly from the performance report to the outline for that subunit. I chose the paper versions of the books instead of the online version, so I don't have that option, but it was very convenient when I used Gleim for the EA exam.
Roger's IPQ does provide score feedback, but its based on the whole chapter, and there are 7 chapters in BEC for Roger's course.
I like the way Gleim helps me to identify and then focus in on the weaker areas.
I am not sure if Ninja offers this level of breakdown or not.February 11, 2018 at 4:21 pm #1711457
You can surely pass with this approach, but do you think it's quite inefficient? Unless you want to win the Elijah Sells Award, of course…February 11, 2018 at 4:52 pm #1711459
@hydro94-no offense, but I feel that the refrain of “if you got over 75 you studied too hard” is a moot point. If you study to get a 75, you will surely fail. Passing on the first try is worth every effort. Wish I studied harder for FAR so I wouldn't have to re-take it.February 11, 2018 at 5:03 pm #1711462
I don't know why you wouldn't try to get a 100%. I guess people have different thought processes and work ethics. I have very very similar study tactics as Recked, it's only inefficient if you spend the time doing the studying then fail.February 11, 2018 at 5:37 pm #1711474
I just want to pass, I can't blame or be jealous of anyone that got greater than 75. There is no reason to put them down or try to insult. Let's keep studying so we can pass. Those that take the time to give us study points are only suggestions. If it worked for them the suggestions just might work for us. I can't tell what the intention is about studied too hard or inefficient, but the Elijah Sells award is for those who can pass with high scores. Most of us won't get that award, but we can get a 75. I know I'm coming in on the end.February 11, 2018 at 8:04 pm #1711546
@anyatver: No I'm not saying you should only aim for 75. My point is that studying over 100 hours something just for one section is way too much and can be inefficient.February 11, 2018 at 8:59 pm #1711567February 11, 2018 at 11:21 pm #1711630
Working through FAR pension section right now.
Trying to figure out all the related JE.
I didn't take notes when preparing BEC exam.
However, I took handwritten notes while preparing REG exam. ( finding it helpful)
I did the same thing while preparing FAR exam.
I believe trying our best to get highest score as possible.
If you are studying with the attitude of “75”, you probably wouldn't try to understand the concepts and basics and try to figure out why MCQs/ SIMs were answered wrong.
And you probably would wonder why you couldn't pass the exams while others can.February 12, 2018 at 9:12 am #1711750
Inefficient use of time would be having to take one of these tests more than once.
One time is more than enough for me. If I knew the numbers of hours to guarantee me a 75 I would do exactly that.
With my equity position on the line, I'm hedging my bets.
Both the Wiley and Gleim courses recommend over 150 hours per part. I think 180 for FAR from Wiley. And 160 for Gleim.
FAR was my first and I had no idea what to expect, other than the horror stories I had heard, so I went above and beyond.February 12, 2018 at 9:49 am #1711789
I don't think I clocked my hours but my mistake was being too random. I wasn't sure if I should start at the first page of the book or start with mcq's and work backward. I feel more backward with less security about passing. So, how do I make myself read the book! I have wiley book and ninja. I have a little more than 20 days and I still feel like I'm missing something.February 12, 2018 at 11:26 am #1711859
Thanks @reckedracing, I just jotted down your MCQ tips. So to clarify things, only do 1-2 practice exams during final review week/s? then do small blocks of MCQ as you review a chapter? I just got started doing Gleim TB yesterday. I'd say I'm impressed with how clean its interface looks.February 12, 2018 at 12:22 pm #1711942
I only did full length practice exams for FAR. I did one exam with Roger, and then I did a couple practice MCQs block sessions in Gleim to gauge my time.
I did NOT do any practice exams for REG or AUD, and will not do one for BEC. The practice exams are a waste of time. If you do poorly it shakes your confidence.
No review course I have tried comes close to the actual SIMs, so why bother wasting time with them on the practice exams.
In the review stage you should be doing MCQs with immediate answers, or do 10 question blocks so you can review/learn asap.
If you have Gleim use the Test Prep with show answers immediately. If you get one wrong, read why it was wrong, then try to pick the right one.
I can usually limit my options to 2 choices. If I get it wrong its usually the second option. Rarely I will select 3 wrong answer before getting the right one. 3 wrongs = 3 learning chances.
Selecting the correct answer does not alter your score for that session, so the data analytics are still accurate.
That's what works best for me, your learning style may be different.February 12, 2018 at 4:59 pm #1712221
@Tncincy-Here is what I did for all mine, perhaps it would work? I would listen to Becker lectures on the way to work, then I would jump into MCQ for a particular module, then I would go back through the book and take notes (sometimes I would listen to explanations if something wasn't clear), then redo the MCQ and move on. If you feel like you have already been exposed to the material enough-jump into MCQ and go from there. On my re-take I did all of Ninja questions, then went back to Becker and my notes, to re-write my own notes and skim through the book to see what else was worth writing down. Then I re-did all of the Ninja questions I got wrong. Then I went to Becker SIMS, and did random sets of MCQ in Becker and Ninja while doing more SIMS. SIMS and journal entries is where I lived the last couple of days and I really think it made a difference. Once you understand the mechanics of a journal entry, you feel like you know the material so much better. We will see if this technique translates into a pass. I feel nothing at all after this test-maybe that's a good sign?February 12, 2018 at 5:29 pm #1712246
I appreciate the help gang. I can follow this. I don't have becker I have ninja plus, I have gone through the most important ones like bonds, investments, governmental, and a few others. I do have the ninja book and the wiley book. so I can skim through the chapters before starting mcq's. What I was surprised about after yesterdays study, I knew more about governmental and not for profit than I though. according to ninja I need a little more work on cash flows and bonds and financial statements (mostly calculations). I have printed off the suggestions of anyatver, jking reckedracing. I really appreciate you all and your patience. keep those fingers crossed, I'm not giving up. Thanks again Ninja's.February 12, 2018 at 5:31 pm #1712249
I'll take advantage of power weekend, and far retake posts as much as possible. I'm not going down with out a fight. (that's for me). I might feel like i'm talking to myself in these posts, but hey what are we here for if we can't encourage one another to pass.February 12, 2018 at 5:37 pm #1712252
@Tncincy-talk away! No one understands you better than us (I know a bunch of faceless strangers) but we have all been through the same hell! 🙂 keep it going!February 14, 2018 at 2:47 pm #1713509
Oh no! My anniversary is Saturday :-). 28 years :-). I have to study :-(. Has anyone had to cut the evening short to study? Or able to get work done in spite of the celebration.February 14, 2018 at 2:54 pm #1713512
Study early, celebrate later.
I've found that trying to study after 7pm is just a waste of time for me, but I'm usually up around ~6am.February 14, 2018 at 2:58 pm #1713526
I'm on mega study anyway, so I'll add a little extra today thru Friday, and early Sat morning. Thanks for the idea . I think I'm at 20 days and counting down 🙁April 27, 2018 at 4:57 pm #1778559
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It's been awhile, but who's in for a power weekend? I'm not sure if I have a magic number as much as I prefer to master these AUD concepts via MCQ & notes. Wish me luck! Some of these questions are so ambiguous.April 29, 2018 at 5:10 pm #1779624
I'm in for next weekend! I have burned LOTS of bridges ignoring everyone & had ground to make up. But I'm buckling down.
May 5 & 6: 600 MCQ!April 29, 2018 at 7:58 pm #1779800
PDiddy2000ParticipantMay 2, 2018 at 6:57 pm #1783850May 2, 2018 at 8:55 pm #1784018
@julia, working hard to reach the finish line. hoping to join you all this weekend!May 3, 2018 at 4:23 pm #1784683
I'm going to try and get a real understanding of Governmental accounting.May 4, 2018 at 3:57 pm #1785567
Friday: Day 1
Starting with 569 attempted up to today (over a period of 1 month) @ 69.67%.May 5, 2018 at 7:46 am #1785861
Day 1 Recap: I did 100 MCQ in 2.5 hours. I did review the questions I was not sure about and compared them to my notes. I wrote the issues I had and why I got it wrong. I averaged 30 min for 20 questions.
The remaining 500 questions should take 12.5 hours over 2 days,very doable.May 5, 2018 at 8:02 am #1785873
@julia, wow! you are on a roll girl!! i bet you will be done by the end of the weekend. i am not quite done with becker chapter 6 as of yet. i had to take care of car issues yesterday and devoted the evening for the family so here i am behind with my plan (nothing new lol). anyhow, i am going to get that done first and then check in with you. i also need to renew my ninja access. i think i had done about 260 mcq approx.May 5, 2018 at 9:31 am #1785958
Famh110: Hey lady, you are crazy for doing this with a family. Lol. I'm lucky my husband is a pain lately b/c he is stressed from work. BUT, he is low maintenance and takes care of lots of stuff for me. So his (temporary) butt head attitude is very much forgiven. Lol. Good luck lady, I know you will do great!
In my office with no phone access – I have a fridge full of lunchables, chips, emery drinks, and Coke zero and will kill it this weekend.May 5, 2018 at 10:47 am #1786008
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