So lets talk about this curve…

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  • #1561884
    SallyCPA
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    What are your thoughts on the grading of the new exam in first new testing period? I feel like there is going to be a significant curve and more leniency based off of peoples’ experience with the exam, especially with the SIMS.

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  • #1561890
    FARISFUN
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    Thats a great question. I feel like pass rates were already pretty low at around 45% so it will be interesting to see if they go up a few points or stay relatively the same. I could see them being more lenient but at the same time I could see them grading tougher.

    #1561902
    Missy
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    Well there is a curve but not a traditional curve in that your score isn't affected by others who test in the same period. However the exam is designed such that only around 45% can achieve a passing score and even when the exam format has changed in the past that has held fairly constant.

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    #1561912
    A
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    30-ish years ago, the pass rate was around 30%. We should all be grateful for the 45% rate. 😉

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    #1561932
    Ralphie Dos Nachos
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    while i know the exam is based off of points (75) to pass, what percentage of the test would you have to get right would you say to get a 75?

    some people I hear say you won't even need 50% of your exam questions answered right to pass

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    #1561944
    Anonymous
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    There is no certain % of questions needed to be answered right. More difficult questions and sims are weighted more.

    As for the curve, the AICPA can pretend there is no curve all they want but we all know that 45% or people will pass.

    If there is no curve they wouldn't need to take the next few months to “statistically validate” the exam.

    #1561959
    Anthony
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    The exam is curved, but not curved like in traditional sense like a bell shaped curve. Someone could have answered 50% of correct and pass and someone else could have answer 60% of the question correct and still fail. All it comes down to is getting the questions that are weighted more correct and some how obtaining the magical 75 points.

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    #1562193
    santaclaws
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    its curve this one time? is it real?

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    #1562665
    Anonymous
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    Mecrushya, that pass rate 30 years ago was for passing all remaining sections together. Today, passing all remaining sections without failing one is only about 15-20%.

    #1562670
    Anonymous
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    Combine Mia and Anthony's responses and you basically have the full answer.

    #1562679
    zxu2v2
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    I'm wondering how they would adjust the grading on sims for Q2. Back in the days people have several sims in one testlet, they can better allocate their time on sims and go back to work on the harder ones if they have time left. Now, sims are separated into different testlets, and you cannot go to previous ones. I'm not sure if this is a good news or not.

    #1562688
    zxu2v2
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    I'm also doubt that if there are less people testing in this Q2 window? Because some people don't want to wait 10 weeks for score release.

    #1562769
    Skynet
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    I talked about this “Curve” on a woman and got SLAPPED!

    Thanks a lot OP : (

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    #1562961
    Superdude3000
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    Rogers and Becker have both said the AICPA doesn't expect a decrease in pass rates. My guess is after months of re-weighting questions the pass rates for all 4 sections will be between 45-50%. My guess is they want to even out the pass rates across the exams. For example, Audit pass rates are the lowest around 45%, whereas BEC is the highest around 55% with FAR and REG in between.

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    #1564704
    Anonymous
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    Superdude, they might do that, but they could do that at any time, they don't need this period to do that. While passing rates are likely a consideration, the design is mostly difficulty driven. The questions more people get wrong are worth more points. They need the time to weight the new questions and reweight all of the other questions relative to the difficulty of one another to set their values. Like always, they're going to design the scoring so that it's pretty difficult to accumulate 75 points. The changes to the exam are mostly cosmetic. Accounting didn't change and people didn't change, so there's no reason to think the test is going to be any more or less difficult or that passing rates are going to drastically change.

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