Matching Substantive Tests with Audit objectives / assertions – HELP

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  • #191888
    Anonymous
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    I’ve passed 3 CPA exams, I take AUD next Friday (2/13)

    I’m going over all the AUD SIMS on Wiley’s Test bank and I’m just struggling on Evidence. I can’t seem to match any substantive test with an audit objective.

    Advice?

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  • #646044
    taxgeek83
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    Have you tried making yourself a chart? I'm more of a visual learner, and having something to look at and recall later always seemed to help me.

    After making a chart and getting a feel for what matches what, you might consider opening up Excel and making some random “match” worksheets to practice on until you get it down.

    #646045
    Anonymous
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    Like chart out each transaction for every assertion? There's so many auditing procedures you can do for inventory, accounts receivable, etc, and for each assertion.

    #646046
    CPA soon
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    That is the reason I failed Audit. I couldn't find a good explanation of those relationships. Just tons of information with no guidance on the logic.

    FAR - 71, 68, 74, (8/31/14) 78 ✔
    REG - 67, 71, 71, (10/18/14) 78 ✔
    BEC - (11/29/14) 86 ✔
    AUD - 73, (4/4/15) 86 ✔

    I can't believe this is over! 2 years and 3 months..

    #646047
    ruggercpa2b
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    When I scored my 66 in audit I was weak in audit evidence and knew that going into the exam. When I retook it and came up 2 points short I actually showed I was stronger in Audit Evidence that go around.

    There are so many different tests that you have to do but what I learned after doing the questions in the testbank was that there are certain ones that they seem to test on. I went through all the questions and any sims that I came across I printed off and reviewed. I also did purchase the Audit Evidence Bisk Hot Spot.

    When I came across any questions I talked through it and would write down what i could remember from memory whether it was related to testing inventory, AR…

    AUD - NINJA in Training
    BEC - NINJA in Training
    FAR - NINJA in Training
    REG - NINJA in Training
    AUD - 1/6/18
    FAR - TBD
    REG - TBD
    BEC - TBD

    AUD - 73, 72 retake 7/2/2016
    BEC - 8/20/2016
    REG - TBD
    FAR - TBD

    I am so ready for this nightmare to be over. Been at this way too long.

    #646048
    taxgeek83
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    I was thinking each test to the audit objective it supports. It's been a long time since I've taken Audit, but for some reason I thought Wiley had some sort of chart in there – I could be thinking of something else though.

    #646049
    Anonymous
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    @CPA soon

    You passed AUD though… did you EVER find any guidance?

    I mean, yes, you can memorize SOME things. Like looking at the F/S will help with Presentation (to see if it's matching)…

    but I just don't get most of these.

    #646050
    Anonymous
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    Pulled this from a couple Google links, might be a good start to try and format into a chart and then add to it when you stumble across questions… I will probably try to make myself a chart at some point this weekend with these items if I can't find one on Google, don't really have time to look for one at the moment. I know this won't help much with “learning” the reasoning behind the procedures, but it may help with a memorization chart, sorry.

    Fourteen standard audit procedures used in an audit ‘FIVE CARROT CARS:

    – Footing; crossfooting; recalculation

    – Inquiry

    – Vouching

    – Examination/Inspection

    – Confirmation

    – Analytical Procedures

    – Reperformance

    – Reconciliation

    – Observation

    – Tracing

    – Cut Off Review

    – Analyse related accounts simultaneously

    – Client Rep Letter

    – Subsequent Reviews


    Most relevant Assertions for accounts (B/S Accounts)

    1) Completeness (most relevant to liabilities)

    2) Valuation ,Allocation, Accuracy

    3) Existence and Occurrence (most relevant to assets)

    4) Right and Obligations


    Most Relevant Assertion for Revenue Accounts (Transactions)

    1) Completeness(expense)

    2) Valuation, Allocation and Accuracy

    3) Existence and Occurrence (Revenue)

    4) Understandability and Classification

    5) CutOff


    Assertions for Presentation

    1) Completeness

    2) Valuation Accuracy and Allocation

    3) Understandability and Classification (Most relevant)

    4) Rights and Occurrence


    What audit procedures are relevant to the completeness assertion?

    – Tracing

    – Analytical review

    – Observation


    What audit procedures are relevant to the valuation, allocation, and accuracy assertion?

    – Inspection

    – Footing

    – Independent recalculation

    – Reconciliation


    What audit procedures are relevant to the existence and occurrence assertion?

    – Confirmation

    – Observation, inspection, and examination

    – Vouching


    What audit procedures are relevant to the understandability and classification assertion?

    – Inspection

    – Review

    – Inquiry of management


    What audit procedures are relevant to the rights and obligations assertion?

    -Inspection

    #646051
    CPA soon
    Member

    @car80x I wish I passed, I scored 73. I am probably going to watch some lectures maybe that would help me for my April attempt.

    FAR - 71, 68, 74, (8/31/14) 78 ✔
    REG - 67, 71, 71, (10/18/14) 78 ✔
    BEC - (11/29/14) 86 ✔
    AUD - 73, (4/4/15) 86 ✔

    I can't believe this is over! 2 years and 3 months..

    #646052
    ocboa
    Member

    good explanation

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