Big 4 Office Transfer?

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    I work for a big 4 firm and I am looking to transfer offices soon and was wondering if any of you have experience doing so. How hard is it to transfer offices? I am a rising staff 2 with a really good preliminary rating (still waiting on final review process to complete). The office is in the same region (larger office to smaller office). Does this make the transfer easier/harder? And if so what is the best way to initiate the conversation.

    Any advice or knowledge?

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    Sorry to hijack this thread but I have the same concern except I haven't even started yet. I was wondering if anyone working in Big 4 has seen this happen where a staff has transferred to an office abroad? I want to work in a different country but have accepted an offer to work in the States. If not, when do you think is appropriate to voice this opinion?

    Thanks!

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    @cpagrinderrrr2013 – a lot of times it has to do with office demand. If the office you're trying to leave needs people and the office you want to go to is fully staffed, it is more likely the transfer will be denied than if the staffing needs were reversed. I think the best approach would be to bring it up during your year-end review. When I was in Big 4 we had people who applied for transfers without ever talking to their performance managers and that never went over well.

    @B4Princess – I was Big 4 for a few years and we had a requirement that you had to have worked at the firm for a year before you could even request a transfer. And that was domestic, not sure if the international requirements were different. I do know someone who was granted a domestic transfer before being at the firm for a year, but the office he was transferring to was dealing with a bunch of IPOs at once and they were desperate for staff. Had that not been the case, the transfer wouldn't have been approved for the first year at least.

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    ” I am a rising staff 2 with a really good preliminary rating”

    As in Staff 1 to Staff2 or Staff 2 to Senior?

    I moved offices at my Big 4, and it was pretty easy. A few things helped me transition:

    -Good rating

    -I was a Senior. The higher rank you are the easier it is.

    -High demand and high activity for people to the office I was transferring to

    -Good economy (i.e. people leaving the firm, so there's needs everywhere)

    “The office is in the same region (larger office to smaller office). Does this make the transfer easier/harder?”

    It can be both. Easier in the sense that a smaller office sometimes has less flexibility in resources, so a few people leaving can make a big impact. So in that respect, you have a better shot if people have recently left that office.

    Harder in that they might not have, and there's less room or need for you in that office. I've seen both, but it's really out of your control. all I can suggest is to put the word out there early because a lot can happen in a few months. Best to get that flea in the recruiters head early.

    “And if so what is the best way to initiate the conversation.”

    Talk to you counselor/mentor/coach at your Big 4. They will tell you who in HR you need to contact to initiate the conversation. It might also be a good way to get more information on how easy it is and what to expect.

    Like I said, go ahead and start early. It can take as quickly as a few weeks or as long as 3-4 months.

    Edit: If for some reason you're getting a lot of pushback or they're dragging their feet on your request, there's a few “Nuclear” options you can take. Just know that HR won't be extremely happy with you either way. So if it doesn't work out then it might get awkward.

    Option 1: Shop around. Reach out to friends, ex-classmates, linkedin, and see if you can get in contact with a recruiter from another firm. At the very least you'll get an idea of the salary level of the office as well as the need. Then present your firm with the fact that you have an offer from XYZ firm at the desired location.

    If you're a highly rated Staff it's a 50-50 shot they'll cave and expedite. Otherwise, they might be a bit miffed and do nothing. Either way, you have your wish to go to another office. If you're highly rated and a Senior it's almost guaranteed they'll expedite.

    Option 2: Reach out to people in the other office. See if there's a need. If it's a very high need, then hopefully you can get a Sr. Manager or Partner on your side to lobby for you to transfer. This is easier if you're very highly rated, as they'll have a vested interest in acquiring you as a resource. Otherwise, you just look like an underperforming/average douche.

    Even if this works, it'll get out and HR at your current office will be annoyed at you. However, as long as your new office is happy who cares? It goes without saying that this is the sort of thing to do only once in your career unless you want a crappy reputation.

    I probably wouldn't do either unless I had some huge dying urge to leave my office for the other location though.

    Mayo, BBA, Macc

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