Bond Amortization

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    mkrohmer
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    Im currently studying using Becker and F5 is impossible in my mind. While listening to the lecture on Leases I thought it was terrible but then scored a 78% on the HW first time through and thought the questions weren’t that difficult. I hoped the same thing was true for bonds, but this hasn’t been the case. The MCQ are killing me. I just don’t understand the concept of amortization and valuing the bonds during their life. Im lost before even getting to bonds issued between dates, bond sinking funds, serial bonds, etc. I saw another post that said u should be fine if u can answer these questions:

    Can you explain, using your own words, the reason that bonds are sold at a discount or a premium? Can you explain the amortization of the discount/premium in plain English, as well as how it affects interest expense and the carrying amount? Why do we discount at the market rate of interest rather than the stated rate, and what happens if you accidentally discount at the stated rate?

    I really can’t answer any of these, I’m lost. Someone PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!

    BEC - 83 (1/23/15)
    FAR - 80 (4/3/15)
    REG - 88 (5/14/15)
    AUD - 81 (7/3/15)

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  • #649233
    Anonymous
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    This is pretty decent and should answer most of your questions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ncDGjcqRqo

    #649234
    mkrohmer
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    Thanks this helped. Still not there but its beginning to make sense.

    BEC - 83 (1/23/15)
    FAR - 80 (4/3/15)
    REG - 88 (5/14/15)
    AUD - 81 (7/3/15)

    #649235
    Anonymous
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    If you could watch the Roger CPA review video (it may be on Youtube) I think that will make a huge difference, this is the only way I could remember it. I no longer have access to my account. His videos made all the difference in my understanding of leases, bonds and cash flow.

    #649236
    mkrohmer
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    I can't find that video online, if anyone could post a link it would be greatly appreciated. I'm grasping the carrying value, interest expense and discount/premiums now but I get confused when new variables are thrown in and on gains/losses and bond conversions. But at least I'm making progress, this topic doesn't seem impossible anymore.

    BEC - 83 (1/23/15)
    FAR - 80 (4/3/15)
    REG - 88 (5/14/15)
    AUD - 81 (7/3/15)

    #649237
    Anonymous
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    For me, once I understood bonds they became way fun. I'm convinced it's why I passed FAR.

    #649238
    Determined CPA
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    mkrohmer – do you have the ninja notes? Jeff does a very good job with bonds. He has 2 charts, one for discounts and one for premiums. I rewrote them a few times and nailed them. I agree with brooks303, once I learned them, I was happy to see questions on them! They arent as bad as you think. Get the ninja notes.

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    #649239
    Anonymous
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    I think Roger's free demo FAR lecture happens to be about bond, I'd watch it

    #649240
    Dog pounder1977
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    I am a senior in college and start intermediate accounting 1 tomorrow but just reviewed bonds to get ready for intermediate accounting. Don't worry I was confused too when I began reading the chapter but I believe I am qualified enough and should be able to answer some of your questions.

    1.) Can you explain, using your own words, the reason that bonds are sold at a discount or a premium?

    Sure. First, there are two interest rates that affect the price of a bond: The stated interest rate (which does not change) and the market interest rate (aka effective interest rate). When the market interest rate is GREATER than the stated interest rate the bond will be issued at a discount. Why? Because lenders can earn more interest on bonds elsewhere. If the market interest rate is LOWER than the stated interest rate, the bond will be issued at a premium. Why? Because your stated interest rate is more attractive than the market interest rate where lenders can earn more in interest by purchasing your bond. Therefore, they will be willing to pay more for your bond creating the premium (any amount greater than the maturity value) It is this amount that is subject to amortization (depreciation).

    2.) Can you explain the amortization of the discount/premium in plain English, as well as how it affects interest expense and the carrying amount?

    Absolutely. Amortization of a bond is referring to how much of the premium or discount is reduced (depreciated via amortization) annually to get the bond amount to the maturity value on the maturity date. For instance, if the stated interest rate is 9% and the market interest rate is 8% the bond will be issued at a premium. Let's say we have a bond with a par value (aka maturity value aka principal amount) is $100,000 stated interest rate of 9% for 5 years.

    Interest is paid in semiannual installments or twice a year or every six months. Let's say the market interest rate is 8%. That 1 percent difference between the market and stated interest rate will create the premium on the bond. To determine the premium amount of the bond, the first step is to determine the Present Value (PV) of the bond. You would take the par value of $100,00 x the present value of a single amount at 1/2 of the market interest rate (or present amount of $1) times the number of periods (interest payments). If the bond is for 5 years and we pay interest twice a year then the number of periods is 10. So for our example, 1/2 of the market interest rate is 4% (8 divided by 2)

    The formula for determining the PV of a single amount is 1 divided by 1+(interest rate).

    Step 1: Your formula would look like this: 100,000 x 0.676= $67600. Let's stop here. I know you may be wondering “Where did you get 0.676 from?” I got that from using the PV of a single amount formula 1/1+4% or 1/1.04 getting 0.961 and keep doing that 10x (10 being the number of interest payments like I stated above). The next step is determine the PV of the stated interest. For step 2, you take the maturity value ff $100,000 (aka par value aka principal amount) and multiply that by the PV of an annuity at 4%. This is where it may get a bit tricky. Remember how I said you take 1/1.04 and keep doing that 10x? Now your going take those same amounts but ADD them to get the PV of an ANNUITY.

    For example 1/1.04=0.962 (rounded). Divide 0.962 by 1.04 again and you get 0.925 (rounded). 0.925 is the PV of $1 at 2 periods. Add those two together (0.962+0.925) and you get the ANNUITY at 2 periods. The ANNUITY at 3 periods is 0.925/1.04= 0.889 +0.962+0.925= 2.776. Get it? Keep dividing and keep adding until you reach 10x. After you come up with the annuity at 10 periods amount your formula will look like this (back to STEP 2).

    $100,000 x 0.045% (half of the stated interest rate 9% divided by 2). You get $4500. Step three is taking that 4500 and multiplying it by the ANNUITY amount at 10 periods (you should have this by now after dividing and adding like I explained above) So step three is $4500 x 8.111= 36499.5 rounded = 36500. Take 36500 and add that with the PV of the principal amount in Step 1 ($67600)

    So now you have the PV (present value) of the bond aka the market price of the bond $104,100 (67600+36500).

    Remember where I said the premium is any amount over the maturity value aka par value aka principal amount? In this example it is the extra $4100. (104,100-100,000) This amount is subject to amortization (depreciation) over the life of the bond. All you do from here (assuming it is straight line amortization) is take 4100 divided by the number of periods being 10 and you get $410. The final step for determining interest expense is subtracting 410 from every interest expense you owe. So if the stated interest expense that you promised was 9% for five years of $100,000 means you pay 9000 every year or 4500 twice a year. Subtract the premium amortization amount from that 4500 every time you pay interest and you get $4090 (4500-410). By the 5th and final year or maturity date, you will only have the $100,000 left which is the amount needed to retire the bond.

    For the carrying value of the bond of the first year would be $104,100 less the amortization of the premium equals $103280 year two subtract another 820 (410 x 2 interest payments) = $102460 year three subtract another 820 giving you $101,640. Year 4 same thing $100,820 and finally year 5 $100,000 the exact amount needed to retire the bond.

    One day I will face that exam.

    #649241
    mkrohmer
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    @lilperk09 Luckily on the CPA exam you do not need to calculate the PV factors. The factors are given and you just need to apply them to the payments. This was a very good explanation of the strait line method. Thanks for taking the time to respond.

    BEC - 83 (1/23/15)
    FAR - 80 (4/3/15)
    REG - 88 (5/14/15)
    AUD - 81 (7/3/15)

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