For those who passed all sections on the first attempt… - Page 2

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  • #192303
    OnMyWay732
    Participant

    So first things first. This is NOT a bragging thread. I am not bragging and I don’t feel like reading about anyone else bragging.

    Second, I am very happy with my job and I am not looking to change at all, this is purely just out of curiosity.

    So I got through all exams. First attempt for each. Started studying May 14, finished my last exam end of Jan 15. I am very proud of myself, so regardless of anything else, getting through it the first time is such a gratifying feeling.

    Anyway, when going to an interview, talking with a higher up at your company, etc, is there any good way to bring up that you passed all on the first try without sounding like you’re bragging?

    “Oh so I see you passed the exam..”

    “Yep, luckily on the first try”

    Just curious if any one has any experience on this

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    FAR - November 2014 - 78
    BEC - January 2015 - 81

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    Used Becker online. Who needs a text when you can burn your eyes out staring at the screen for months on end?

    "Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It is a very mean and nasty place and it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't how hard you're hit; it's about how hard you can get hit, and keep moving forward. How much you can take, and keep moving forward. That's how winning is done!"

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  • #649696
    Anonymous
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    So what if you didn't pass all four on the first try and all you did was study? I was taking one class and trying to pass all four my final semester. I didn't.

    Is it pathetic because I don't have a family and kids and I focused all my time in the test?

    #649697
    OnMyWay732
    Participant

    Very true. I did have a full time job the entire time but I also told my wife that the thought of having a kid will have to wait until the exams are done. My managers were good most of the time about letting me study during work when it was slow, but I had a lot of 1 AM nights, having friends and the wife annoyed, just like we all have had to deal with. I think my motivation for finishing it all was I lost all last summer for studying, and like most people I LOVE summer and just kept envisioning relaxing with no worries of the exam anymore.

    AUD - July 2014 - 76
    REG - August 2014 - 82
    FAR - November 2014 - 78
    BEC - January 2015 - 81

    DONE!!!!

    Used Becker online. Who needs a text when you can burn your eyes out staring at the screen for months on end?

    "Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It is a very mean and nasty place and it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't how hard you're hit; it's about how hard you can get hit, and keep moving forward. How much you can take, and keep moving forward. That's how winning is done!"

    #649698
    OnMyWay732
    Participant

    @DoOver, no not at all. This was not to bash anyone who struggled, or who took more than 4 exams total. It was just IF you happened to get through it is there a way to mention in.

    I know someone who is on exam 16 and has 2 parts passed. It happens.

    AUD - July 2014 - 76
    REG - August 2014 - 82
    FAR - November 2014 - 78
    BEC - January 2015 - 81

    DONE!!!!

    Used Becker online. Who needs a text when you can burn your eyes out staring at the screen for months on end?

    "Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It is a very mean and nasty place and it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't how hard you're hit; it's about how hard you can get hit, and keep moving forward. How much you can take, and keep moving forward. That's how winning is done!"

    #649699
    mla1169
    Participant

    My point was I wouldnt bring such things up without knowing my audience. If an interviewer says “yeah those exams were rough but at least I never had to retake one” I'd chime in that I felt exactly the same way. But if the interviewer took every exam more than once for whatever reason, they may not see passing all 4 the first time as an indication of a person's work ethic or capabilities and therefore it might not be worth bringing up. An interviewer only wants to know “can this person succeed here?” and many people who fail these exams can be very successful in a business environment.

    FAR- 77
    AUD -49, 71, 84
    REG -56,75!
    BEC -75

    Massachusetts CPA (non reporting) since 3/12.

    #649700
    Tripp11
    Member

    If YOU bring it up, it's bragging and would not reflect well on you – and this is coming from one of the recruiters of my firm and for my last Top 10 firm.

    If asked how quickly you passed or if you passed them all the first time, by all means answer the question honestly; however, I would NEVER bring this topic up as 99.9% of the time it's going to come off as you bragging.

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    #649701
    juuustin
    Member

    The ONLY way you bring it up is if you won the EWS Award. I would already have that listed on my resume, however, and any hiring manager would have already seen it going into the interview. There is just no good way to say that you passed them the first time without sounding like you think you are hot sh*t

    MD Candidate: 10/1/14

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    Ethics - 100

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    #649702
    TNCPA16
    Participant

    I'm a hiring manager and, honestly I don't care if you passed with 99s the first try or if it took you 100 tries and the highest score you got was a 75. Unless specifically asked or if the topic comes up, I'd steer clear of the subject. Stating that you passed on the first try will not give you an edge over someone who failed a million times, but it might hurt you if it came off as bragging. If the opportunity does present itself in an interview, however, I'd recommend a humble approach like: “I didn't expect to, but somehow managed to pass on the first try” route vs. “I'm so awesome, I passed on the first try without even trying” route.

    I don't tell people this in interviews, but really, the CPA exam is a check-the-box requirement for anyone wanting to get promoted up, and it gives us a little more credibility with our external auditors. It doesn't tell me how smart you are or how well you will do in this position. Our expectation is that everyone will get their CPA eventually, so I care more about your personality than I do about how you killed the exams.

    #649703
    Mamabear
    Member

    ^^Yep. Exactly what Jilly Beans said.

    CPA Exam - Finally DONE (November 2014)
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    #649704

    agreed with most others here. I passed all 4 on the first try but would never bring it up unless directly asked In an interview. It sounds like you are stretching because you don't have enough accomplishments to discuss (whether that's true or not). Being a CPA is the only thing they care about….

    MBA,CMA,CPA, CFF?, ABV?

    #649705
    TNCPA16
    Participant

    This gave me a good laugh…

    #649706
    mla1169
    Participant

    Going concern is an opinion piece just like everything here is. And you know what they say about opinions….

    FAR- 77
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    REG -56,75!
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    #649707
    zoctoman
    Member

    Humble is the way to go. Even after I was hired and someone asked me my scores, I told them my highest and said that the rest I passed comfortably. I did mention, however, that I can sing every single word to its the end of the world(as we know it)! I really can!!!

    Audit(11/5/13) - 89
    Reg(5/16/14) - 86
    FAR(7/18/14) - 82
    BEC(11/14) - 85

    #649708
    Mamabear
    Member

    Good one zoctoman! Thinking I may bring up that I can do the entire Footloose and Thriller dances. 🙂

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    #649709
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    One other possible hiring manager scenario that wouldn't be a good time to mention it: If the person interviewing you isn't a CPA (probably more likely in industry), they may not know what's involved in these tests. If they think of them as, say, essentially a final exam, then saying “Luckily I passed them all on the first try” could sound like you're a poor student who only got his degree cause he was lucky that the professors didn't want him in class next semester so passed him through.

    When I was job-hunting while studying and 2 for 2, I tried hard to find a way to mention that it was first-attempt, cause to those who knew, it would be a good thing; however, I don't think I ever found a good way to, and I realize now that there's more harmful scenarios than helpful ones. (Manager who had trouble and is intimidated by someone passing quickly [yes, you can get passed over because the manager thinks you could do better than they do]l; manager who doesn't know anything about the exams; manager who got 98's on his first try with no trouble so thinks it's only impressive at 97+ and follows up your passing statement with asking what your scores were; etc.) It seems to me like 90% of CPAs think their studying situation was worse than anyone else's, or at least worse than many, and 90% of non-CPAs don't know that the exams have a less-than-50% passing rate…so, that means about 90% of hiring managers aren't going to be impressed for one reason or another.

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    P. S. I passed all on 1st try and wouldn't hold it against someone for mentioning it, but wouldn't hire them solely due to it; however, I have to admit if they added details that made it seem less impressive, then it might lower them in my eyes. Like, if they said “I took 8 months off work, studied 70-80 hours a week, and barely managed to pass them all in that time, but had no life outside of studying for the whole time”, then since I took less than 6 months to pass while working and dealing with family stuff (elderly relatives, not kids), I'm going to be less impressed than I was before. My general thought is the more details you give, the more that can be used against you. And despite what's popular to say here (prepare for rotten tomatoes…), if someone had taken 100 tries to pass, that would affect how I viewed them in a non-positive way, unless they had a really good explanation. For example, I think it was Mints that discovered near the end of her journey that she'd had major medical issues that were impeding her ability to study; OK, in her case, her many tries (20+ I think?) were a sign of dedication. But, if you can't tell me in 30 seconds why you had a good excuse to take 100 tries, then I'm going to presume that you didn't take it seriously or are a slow learner or can't commit to things or will take equally as many tries at your work cause your home distractions would affect work etc. That being said, there are reasons aside from Mints' that are valid for requiring many tries, and for a couple extra tries I wouldn't think less of the person…but if you took quite a few tries, I wouldn't bring it up, because it has far more potential to bring you down in the person's eyes than bring you up. Is this fair of me? Probably not. It wouldn't instantly disqualify a candidate or anything, but I can't in good conscience say that if you'd passed, nothing you said about your study journey would affect my view on you.

    #649710
    Hari Seldon
    Participant

    Generally no, there's not a good way to bring up passing them all on the first try, but I disagree with Jillybeans. If you did pass them all on your first try with 99s, that means you are an EWS award winner and you sure as heck should put that on your resume at least. Not the scores, but just the prize. People hiring that know the exam process will realize you had to have passed them all on the first try to achieve the award. By her comment she does not hire for public accounting, but the public firms love to have EWS winners working there, so it would be a positive if you are trying to get in to public accounting. Even then, it's likely just something that will help distance yourself a bit from other candidates rather than make you a shoe-in for a position.

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