Management representation letter

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    blueberrycpa
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    Ninja MCQ #735

    Which of the following matters would an auditor most likely include in a management representation letter?

    A.

    Communications with the audit committee concerning weaknesses in internal control

    B.

    The completeness and availability of minutes of stockholders’ and directors’ meetings

    C.

    Plans to acquire or merge with other entities in the subsequent year

    D.

    Management’s acknowledgment of its responsibility for the detection of employee fraud

    The Answer given is B but shouldn’t the answer be D?

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    ruggercpa2b
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    By reading the question its asking for what is in the management rep letter. The rep letter talks about management acknowledging that the financial statements are fairly presented, that all information has been made available to the auditors and is complete, and that they have made all appropriate disclosures.

    Auditor responsibility and manager responsibility are highlighted the engagement letter and the audit report.

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    #660578
    blueberrycpa
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    so the answer is B? because in gleim to a very similar question the answer is D .

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    #660579
    KBinMN
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    This is a bit easier w/ experience, seeing that I have been done studying for a while now and I just wrapped up an audit I was sure it was B. It's nice to have the letter on hand too 🙂

    D is a tricky answer because fraud is mentioned a bunch of times but “employee” fraud is the main word that should be considered. I assume this would include small asset misappropriation (theft) and would not affect the financials. At least that is how I think about it. The management letter is about what management makes available to you. Here's a nice copy and paste:

    We have no knowledge of any fraud or suspected fraud that affects the entity and involves:

    o Management,

    o Employees who have significant roles in internal control, or

    o Others where the fraud could have a material effect on the financial statements.

    ^this is listed on our rep letter. While this is close, I think answer B makes more sense. You always ask for the minutes.

    This is what makes the audit exam so hard. D really could be seen as being correct, IMO B is the “more correct” answer.

    #660580
    blueberrycpa
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    Which of the following matters will an auditor most likely include in a management representation letter?

    A. All concentrations of credit risk not expected to change materially within the next year.

    B. Plans to acquire or merge with other entities in the subsequent year.

    C. Communications with the audit committee concerning weaknesses in internal control.

    D. Management’s acknowledgment of its responsibility to detect employee fraud.

    And the answer here given is D… A very similar question to the above one

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    #660581
    ruggercpa2b
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    Sometimes just one or two words can completely change the question. Do you remember what the Gleim question said?

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    #660582
    blueberrycpa
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    U mean the explanation that Gleim has provided? I don't even see any difference except the choice of minutes availability and does that mean if minutes is available you should first give preference to that?

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    #660583
    blueberrycpa
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    I have posted the gleim question above.

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    #660584
    KBinMN
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    There is no answer B from question 1 in the 2nd question. This is why I mentioned “more correct”.

    #660585
    blueberrycpa
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    Ya i guess thats how it should be inferred. But still this is so confusing….

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    #660586
    OnMyWay732
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    D is not correct because management does not have the responsibility of detecting fraud. What it says is that they have no knowledge of suspected fraud, but there's always that chance that the employee is concealing it.

    Choice B is correct because that is literally right in the management rep letter. The letter states that they made all minutes available to the auditors.

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