Masters program … Accounting vs Forensic Accounting

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    Anonymous
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    Hello all. I will be finishing up with my Bachelors (Accounting) soon and will be entering a Masters program to fulfill the 150 credit hour requirement to sit for the CPA exam. However, my school offers two Accounting related Masters Programs. Accounting and Forensic Accounting.

    Any thoughts on which I should go far?

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  • #322287
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    I'd say get an MBA.. … you had enough accounting courses … I'm graduating from a masters in accounting program now and … I really think that i could have invested the money in a much better manner. You had the courses that you need for the workplace mainly in ur undergrad … no need for more … its going to be redundant and not really as useful as u think it will be… dont get me wrong … its not a bad idea … im just saying that u should consider an MBA as an option too …

    forensic accounting is really interesting … depending on the job market … you certainly will need to be an auditor first to get into forensic investigation but … a degree is not a bad idea …

    I hope you make the best decision 🙂 I really dont want u to think that a masters is a bad idea … but … I might have had a bad experience.

    STUDY NOW FOR YOUR CPA !!!

    #322288
    Phllop
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    My grad accounting courses helped a LOT with CPA studying, I would probs just go accounting if you're only going so you can meet the 150 credit requirement. It will probably help you the most with passing. I don't know much about forensic accounting though so I can't comment too much, just saying what I would do.

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    #322289
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    Thanks for the response Aalkukhun and Phlopp. I've considered an MBA but I was dissuaded after a friend of mine, who has her MBA and is about to have a PhD in Business told me that an MBA probably isn't going to do much in my profession.

    Therefore I narrowed it down to Accounting and Forensic. Any Forensic Accounting people on here? I was thinking that it would give me a niche, or specialty.

    #322290
    katfid54
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    If you coupled a masters in Forensic Accouting with a law degree, you could wreck shop doing securities litigation or defending/prosecuting white collar crime.

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    #322291
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    I have been debating going back to school for Forensic Accounting Masters. I graduated in May 2011 and have one more exam left. I have heard both sides…that it will be a waste of time if I already have the CPA under my belt, and that it is a good idea because it will be a specialty. I also graduated from a small school that no firms recruited from, so I thought it would also help to possibly get recruited by a firm…because sending resumes through job postings online has not been very successful. I think you have to go with what you feel is right for you and stick with it. I just think forensic accounting would be an interesting career.

    #322292
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    I have been debating going back to school for Forensic Accounting Masters. I graduated in May 2011 and have one more exam left. I have heard both sides…that it will be a waste of time if I already have the CPA under my belt, and that it is a good idea because it will be a specialty. I also graduated from a small school that no firms recruited from, so I thought it would also help to possibly get recruited by a firm…because sending resumes through job postings online has not been very successful. I think you have to go with what you feel is right for you and stick with it. I just think forensic accounting would be an interesting career.

    #322293
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    Katfid54 – I dreamed of being a laywer when I was in my teens. However, after 6 years of school I don't think I could even think of enduring another 3 years.

    Cole713 – I completely agree with you. It not only sounds interesting, but it doesn't seem that there are many people with a Masters in Forensic Accounting. Seems that this could help me stand out.

    #322294
    katfid54
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    Yeah, I understand that. I am finishing up my last year of law school right now, but I didn't get a masters. I did, though, work two years after undergrad, so I'd probably be in a similar time-horizon to you. I have really enjoyed law school (although it's hard as balls), and lawyers that “understand math” (as ex-accountants are conventionally pegged) are a pretty rare commodity–although I tell people that I'm not good at math; I'm good at Microsoft Excel.

    With the public outcry over Wall Street returns and the highly variable stock market over the past few years, the incidences of moral-outrage begetting legal-outrage begetting white-collar criminal proescutions and shareholder derivative suits will be going hot and heavy. A lawyer that can understand a balance sheet, calculate damages, AND communicate all that information to a jury of individuals with a 6th-grade reading level will be with her weight in gold.

    Anyway, that's my pitch. Good luck with whatever you decide to do!

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    #322295
    Anonymous
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    Kat, where are you going to Law School? How is the job outlook for lawyers right now?

    #322296
    katfid54
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    I'm at the University of Texas.

    As for graduates, it really is a “Tale of Two Job Markets.” Most schools really inflate their graduate employment data–that information really lacks trustworthiness. However, if you can get into one of the Top 20ish law schools (Yale, Harvard, Columbia, Stanford, NYU, Chicago, Penn, Michigan, Virginia, Duke, Berkeley, Cornell, Northwestern, Georgetown, Texas, Vanderbilt, UCLA, USC, Washington U @ St. Louis, Notre Dame), then the job prospects are still really bright. At the top of the list, you can mostly finish anywhere in your class, get a job, and start out at 160k. These jobs (known colloquially to law students as “Big Law” jobs) are the places where the real “legal” action takes place–like the securities litigation and the sexy work done by deal lawyers. Between schools 10-20, if you're in the top 1/3 to top 1/4, you'll get the same type of job as the kids coming out of the Top Ten schools. And, if you have a good undergrad GPA/LSAT score, a number of people get into a school ranked 10-20 with a full ride for the whole three years. People that are able to swing a full ride and end up in the top 1/4 of their class live what we in the business call “The Sweet Life.”

    After those top 20 schools, the pickings become much slimmer and a lot more regional. For “regional” schools, the top 5% of a class may be able to get pretty good jobs out of school, but the rest of the kids will either be jobless or will have to go work as a district attorney somewhere—it's not the best system.

    I do think that accountants are particularly well-suited for law school, though. We spend our entire undergrad careers (and professional careers) learning rules and using logic and analytical reasoning to interpret those rules. That is ALL that law school is. Accordingly, accountants really have a leg up on their counterparts that have undergrad degrees in political science, history, or liberal arts.

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    #322297
    Minimorty
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    As an alternative to going through graduate school for forensic accounting, the AICPA has a designation geared towards forensic accounting.

    https://www.aicpa.org/InterestAreas/ForensicAndValuation/Membership/Pages/Overview%20Certified%20in%20Financial%20Forensics%20Credential.aspx

    I still believe that professional designations will open more doors than graduate degrees.

    #322298
    makinthemagic
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    I'd go regular accounting. I'd rather have a general accounting degree that I can use for almost any type of work than a specialty degree that pigeonholes me into one career path.

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    #322299
    Minimorty
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    Jack of all trades, master of none.

    Specialization = $$$$

    #322300
    katfid54
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    Depends on how good your jack is, imo.

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    #322301
    Anonymous
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    @Kat – Thanks for the information. That makes me leery to go to Law School. The chances of getting into a top 10 school is slim and being jobless after having 100k in Law School loans doesnt sound good. Eek!

    @MiniMority – Why do you believe that is better than a graduate degree?

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