What is training like at a Big 4 for first-year associates?

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  • #193359
    Anonymous
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    I have been reading posts and forums in the internet that Big 4 training is really good, and it's one of the benefits of working at a Big 4.

    But I have a couple friends at PWC, and they told me that training really sucks and you don't really learn that much. You basically learn everything on the job and it is a learn-as-you-go experience.

    And they said that during training everyone in the class just spaces out or plays solitaire on their computer, and not pay that much attention to the instructor.

    Is the training program really good or is the real training on the job? Just wondering what training is like for first-year associates at any of the Big 4.

    #662333
    rp 12rp 12
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    I will second that as well. But if you can walk away from this training on how to maneuver with audit software system – just basics. It could help you. Also, if you have time use pre-recorded web based learning. I used to work at EY and they had that. It was very helpful.

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    #662334
    acamp
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    There are various levels of training:

    New hire: learn the software and/or space out and play solitaire

    Periodic class room trainings: Learn about rev rec, GAAP Tax Disclosures, PCAOB Focus points, etc and/or space out and play solitaire

    CPE/Online Trainings: Lots of various topics where you can learn and/or space out and play solitaire

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    #662335
    Anonymous
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    It's viewed as a week off from actually working. I usually play games on my computer.

    #662336
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I guess my real question is: Do you actually learn anything if you pay attention so that it will help you on the job????

    #662337
    Anonymous
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    Not in the ones I've had. They try and teach it like a high school class with handouts and practice worksheets. In my opinion, everything you do is based on your senior so why bother learning it in a classroom.

    #662338
    Anonymous
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    You can only learn so much. The best learning is done while on the job. Big 4 is great cause you are constantly pushed out of your comfort zone on the job – it is rare to test the same section at the same client two years in a row. You also have TONS of access to online training a on almost any topic you can think of. Those are what ppl talk about when tgey praise the training NOT the week of training before you really start ;).

    #662339
    OnMyWay732
    Participant

    Its garbage…Big 4 isn't about actually knowing anything in the industry until youre manager…Staff and senior is all about how well you can learn their stupid computer programs

    #662340
    acamp
    Participant

    Right, at the Big4 your first 5 years are spent learning their computer programs *roll eyes*

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    #662341
    OnMyWay732
    Participant

    Not necessarily learning….Let's hope you pick that up in the first year..but more using. You aren't given a decision-making role until you're manager. Before that it's all just testing testing testing…and making memos

    #662342
    Anonymous
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    Any posts/forum that say that big4 training is top notch is just your typical mumbo jumbo kool aid.

    The only real useful trainings are the ones that teach you how to use certain firm-specific software. Oh and don't forget those national trainings that focus on teaching you how to write a paragraph and have a conversation LOL

    #662343
    thechapman
    Member

    It's pretty damn basic

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